OH SNAP! Peanut butter disproves evolution

**Il Duce** · March 27, 2007, 08:03 PM

Damn. Us atheists just got owned.

**vizi** · March 27, 2007, 08:11 PM

I fail to see how opening a jar of peanut butter meets the requisites for life to be created....

I am no 'scientist' however.....

**therussian** · March 27, 2007, 08:13 PM

Bah, that experiment is rigged. The jar of peanut butter was OBVIOUSLY already opened before he pulled the seal all the way off

**Il Duce** · March 27, 2007, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Bah, that experiment is rigged. The jar of peanut butter was OBVIOUSLY already opened before he pulled the seal all the way off

Yeah, those cheating bastards

**Zuwxiv** · March 27, 2007, 08:14 PM

Well, you can't argue with that logic!

**Last Roman** · March 27, 2007, 08:17 PM

Moved to Athenaeum

**Hotspur** · March 27, 2007, 08:25 PM

Great Caesar's Ghost! Could it be that had I simply paid attention when I opened a jar of peanut butter, I would now be Catholic! Oh, how I have wasted my life!

**vizi** · March 27, 2007, 08:28 PM

I am still looking for the logic behind that experiment....and yes the jar was already opened.

**Cúchulainn** · March 27, 2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by vizigothe

I am still looking for the logic behind that experiment....

Me too, it was a complete reductio ad absurdum, well thats creationist for you. They don't seem to realise that peanut butter was a living organism, Peanuts and was killed to create peanut butter, you can't get any life from dead life.

**William the Bastard** · March 27, 2007, 08:53 PM

"Jesus loves Peanut Butter" is that the message he wants us to learn?

**empty** · March 28, 2007, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Cúchulainn

..., you can't get any life from dead life.

Partially, yes, because of the necrophagus and of some unicelular beings I don't remember the name that eat dead matter to continue living, making this a plain exact cicle.

The guy on the vid must have some mental disease, since I'm 15 years old, not english, and understood plainly how fool he was (glad there were more people on the thread that also pointed this fact!...).

Man, this made me hungry for peanut butter!... I've been willing to it for some 2 months or like.

**vizi** · March 28, 2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by empty

Partially, yes, because of the necrophagus and of some unicelular beings I don't remember the name that eat dead matter to continue living, making this a plain exact cicle.

The guy on the vid must have some mental disease, since I'm 15 years old, not english, and understood plainly how fool he was (glad there were more people on the thread that also pointed this fact!...).

Man, this made me hungry for peanut butter!... I've been willing to it for some 2 months or like.

http://helios.bto.ed.ac.uk/bto/microbes/winograd.htm

**The Fish** · March 27, 2007, 08:42 PM

Wow. That was frigging hilarious. People actually believe this $%#*???

**vizi** · March 27, 2007, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Fish

Wow. That was frigging hilarious. People actually believe this $%#*???

Yes but a lot of people in the USA do believe in Creationism and then evolution following afterwards. Basically God manipulating the evolution of the creatures as part of his plan. This is because Evolution is taught at all public schools.

**RZZZA** · March 27, 2007, 08:52 PM

What about yogurt, huh? Thats technically a living substance, isnt it?

**vizi** · March 27, 2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by RZZZA

What about yogurt, huh? Thats technically a living substance, isnt it?

It has a bacteria culture in it. I do believe it is a culture that forms as the yogurt is made. And yes the food manufactures do not want it evolving. Bad for business if their yogurt starts eating the customer...

**The Fish** · March 27, 2007, 08:52 PM

I actually don't have a problem with people believing in Creationism per se (heck, I have my own spiritual theories for the origin of the universe), but for people to actually think up as stupid an argument as "life doesn't spontaneously arise in jars of peanut butter, therefore evolution is wrong," then go through the trouble of making a movie about it, is truly mind-boggling.

**Hells Bells** · March 27, 2007, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Il Duce

Damn. Us atheists just got owned.

lmao u creationists made fools of yourselves. Seriously the guy is doing this experiment without the things you would normally need, say a microscope etc. in order to see the tiny microorganisms that life started out as.
You cant expect it to evolve into a giraffe in a few days.

Also that jar was hardly sterile, and without a sterile environment any new life would be displaced by highly evolved and vigorous older life.

He also forgets that peanut butter does not contain all that is needed for life to spontaneously occur. You see life does not come from energy and matter. That is stupid. It comes from lipids and organic chemicals. Ever see oil and how it forms those little bubbles? Thats what cells look like. Scientists hypothesize that lipids formed with organic material inside and over millions of years eventually some of them acquired the ability to reproduce. Genetic material came next, that took a while too.

**MaximiIian** · March 27, 2007, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Il Duce

Cheater, cheater, pumpkin...****er.
Seriously, though, that guy's a retard, for all the reasons X.X said.

Originally Posted by RZZZA

What about yogurt, huh? Thats technically a living substance, isnt it?

Not really...it's more of a growth medium for the bacterial culture rather than being the bacterial culture itself. It still counts as it's ecosystem, though.