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    Default BROKEN CRESCENT: Levies and Mercenaries

    These levy units will be available to recruit in cities in specific regions:

    Mediterranean levy units

    Level 1 city barracks - Levy light spearmen



    Level 2 city barracks - Levy light archers



    Level 3 city barracks - Levy spearmen



    Level 4 city barracks - Levy archers



    Level 5 city barracks - Levy axemen



    Level 6 city barracks - Levy crossbowmen



    Middle eastern levy units

    Level 1 city barracks - Levy light spearmen



    Level 2 city barracks - Levy light archers



    Level 3 city barracks - Levy axemen



    Level 4 city barracks - Levy spearmen



    Level 5 city barracks - Levy archer



    Indian levy units

    Level 1 city barracks - Levy Indian light spearmen



    Level 2 city barracks - Levy Indian light javelinmen



    Level 3 city barracks - Levy Indian light archers



    Level 4 city barracks - Levy Indian axemen




    Afghan levy units

    Afghan tribesmen - Javelin armed tribesmen with no armour.



    Afghan hillmen - Light warriors armed with axes.



    Afghan axemen - Fierce fighters carrying long, two handed axes.



    Afghan hunters - Nimble troops armed with a bow and secondary sword.



    Pashtun warriors - Armoured with a leather chest piece, and carrying a khyber knife.





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    Last edited by Miraj; April 30, 2007 at 12:19 PM.
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    Default Re: Middle eastern levy unit screenshots

    Nice work Alphadelta! I like the levy spearmen from the level 4 barracks the best
    Last edited by Goatbuster3000; March 25, 2007 at 08:49 AM.

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    Default Re: Middle eastern levy unit screenshots

    Excellent stuff AlphaDelta. They look just right, just as I imagined them. Are those new faces?

    All factions will be able to recruit these units from ME Muslim regions, basically:

    Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, Persia and Central Asia.

    QUICK SUGGESTION: Its your choice, but you could sticky this thread and rename it "The AOR Units" and keep updating and adding to the first post, just bump the thread whenever you have new stuff.

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    Default Re: Middle eastern levy unit screenshots

    Those are tons better than the originals, you are truly an amazing skinner.

    I never really bothered to look at the Levy/Peasant models but there are some good chunks that you could use from them. Perhaps the Turban (I don't know if it's a turban exactly, excuse my ignorance) can be used for the Bedouin Warriors.

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    Default Re: Middle eastern levy unit screenshots

    Thanks gents.

    Mirage, sure I'll sticky it and change the name. And yes those are new faces, the original ones looked really bad so I knew I had to change them.
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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots

    Wonderful work!!!

    How will AoR work? Will all factions be able to recruit those levy units? If a faction takes middleeast will it be able to recruit them?
    Nice work!!!
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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots

    Quote Originally Posted by King Arsen View Post
    Wonderful work!!!

    How will AoR work? Will all factions be able to recruit those levy units? If a faction takes middleeast will it be able to recruit them?
    Nice work!!!
    Yes.

    The basic idea is that every faction will have "home regions" where it an recruit all its faction units. (ie for kingdom of jerusalem it will be the mediteranean coasts + parts of anatolia).

    Once a faction goes outside those zones only "levy units" will be recruitable.

    So if the Kingdom of Jerusalem conquers Baghdad they will only be able to recruit middles easter levy units from there and THATS IT. This is meant to challenge the player.

    So when campaigning afar reinforcements will be late and you will be challenged to preserve as many of your elite units as you can, cuz you won't get to magically make european knights pop up in Baghdad.

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots

    I think this mod will be greates of modes !!!!!!!! becouse here working true professionals !!!!! great work.

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    You've really done a great job on these guys, made their clothing look wonderfully middle eastern and not the sort of eccentric stuff that they had in vanilla. My only thought is about the smallness of the shield. It seems a bit iffy to me, being so much like a buckler. Is there no chance they can't receive a larger shield? Maybe the one that ME spear militia use?

    I don't mean to sound at all critical, and it's fine if they get those shields. Can't wait to see what wonders you do with the middle eastern units Alpha.
    Last edited by Ahiga; March 25, 2007 at 01:31 PM.

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots

    mirage........................
    words fail to explain how awesomly realistic ur making this.
    challenging, realistic, good quality of graphics, detailed research..... the only thing missing from ur mod are aliens with bazookas!

    im lovin' it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by indian_boy90 View Post
    mirage........................
    words fail to explain how awesomly realistic ur making this.
    challenging, realistic, good quality of graphics, detailed research..... the only thing missing from ur mod are aliens with bazookas!

    im lovin' it!
    Ummm, thats AlphaDelta's work BTW, not mine. He deserves all the praise for this graphical goodness

    But you're right. The more I look at those skins and the other factions the more I wonder who on earth CA was hiring. I mean these are 20 times better than vanilla's monstrous grey/green "creatures". These dudes look like real earthy natural folk from the mideast.

    Don't forget to give AlphaDelta +rep as much as you can!

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots

    ahh wait... i think u misunderstood me!
    i'm praising both of u!
    AlphaDelta for his obvious abilities (duh!)
    and u for impementing ideas such as AoR to increase the challenge as well as make the game more real:
    "cuz you won't get to magically make european knights pop up in Baghdad."
    BINGO! i want to struggle getting reinforcements to back me up as i lay seige on a country far away from mine.
    I want myself to think : "goddamnit! I've lost all my elephants halfway through my Blitzkrieg from India to Jerusalem.... how am i goona take Baghdad now! Alright.... levy troops to hold my ground as the reinforcements are coming in from behind. Battle after battle, struggling as my numbers thin out.... and when i click "end turn" to see that my reinforcements have finally arrived.... i doubt words could explain the "oh thank goodness" feeling' i (we all) would have.

    That's how i want the game to involve me......... and ur mod is DOIN IT!

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    New Mediterranean levy units added. Not sure if they are or

    What should we have in the level 5 barracks?

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    I think they're great . They don't need to be amazing anyways, they're levies. I will need to remove Palestine from the list of "mediteranean" levie regions since they are too European to be produced form there. We'll just label anatolia, georgia, armenia and areas around the black sea as "mediteranean".

    How about a light swordsmen for the mediteranean level five barracks?

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    What should we have in the level 5 barracks?
    meybe lavy swordsmen or light cavalry.

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    I was thinking a crossbow unit to simulate the large populations of Italian traders and their 'neighborhoods' in many crusader cities.

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    Great, mirage... I think this AoR system will work fine in the end.. its indeed challenging and realistic Great work.

    Btw, adding a crossbow unit and atleas a swordsman unit would change the whole aspect of the Levy roster.
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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    Quote Originally Posted by King Arsen View Post
    Great, mirage... I think this AoR system will work fine in the end.. its indeed challenging and realistic Great work.

    Btw, adding a crossbow unit and atleas a swordsman unit would change the whole aspect of the Levy roster.

    But swords strike me as really off for a 'levy'. Especially when there is such an abundance of these types of units on the crusader/Christian side. If anyone needs an offensive (axe/sword/mace/'non spear' polearm) boost, it's the Muslim factions.

    You wouldn't have levies of swordsmen in a Christian army, being lightly armored and sword-wielding (Which seems to hearken back to a Celtic army), but you did have crossbow units as levies in plentiful numbers. To strike a balance, it can be a middle class Italian Trader-levy, armed with crossbow and either a short sword, a regular sword, or a mace (I like the idea of the mace). They would not have good melee-offensive capabilities, however.

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    I agree with Ahiga...

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    Default Re: Broken crescent 'Area of Recruitment' (AoR) unit screenshots (updated 26/3)

    The more I fight with these units the more I think they actually look pretty cool.



    I also agree that we shouldnt have levy swordsmen. I like the idea of levy crossbow men. Perhaps we could have pavise crossbowmen with some interesting pavise designs? What year was the pavise introduced?

    If not pavise then steel crossbows would be a good top end med city unit.
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