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The Armenians will start with Tarsus and Sis (capital). They will face the Turks to the North, the Byzantines to the West, Egypt and Jerusalem to the south and the Seljuks to the east.
So what about faction start? I'm currently planning on having them start with Sis and Tarsus. Sis will be a fort and Tarsus a large town. Are you guys cool with that?
And what about the starting Rupenid leaders? Who was in charge at about 1175. Don't need to be absolutely accurate. If there was a more colorful character in charge a little earlier or after then who cares - we'll use them instead of the historical ones.
Also banners and symbol. Anybody wanna repost that red lion?
Ruben III should start...his brother Levon II should inherit (Roupenid is the surname). No idea when Ruben was born, but he died in 86. If we can't do that, then just make Levon II Roupenid the king.
The city setup seems good to me.
Last edited by John I Tzimisces; March 18, 2007 at 11:55 PM.
Here's there regions. I will post up a more professional one once I've completed the regions (india and the north are left) and make a massive regions maps that will detail every nook and cranny of the campaign map that you all can explore.
Actually, in 1175, the mod start, Armenia is in a bad position. Its king, Mleh, has just been assassinated and Ruben III has ascended. At this time Tarsus and the lower plains of Cilicia were in Byzantine hands. However, Ruben III quickly retook Tarsus and the cities in the lowlands, so basicly Armenia should start with only Sis, but be in the perfect position to take Tarsus and eventually Antioch. (Levon II took Antioch)
Mleh was a muslim convert who was backed by Nur-al Din. He was ousted by the Roupenid leadership in 1174 and replaced by Ruben in 1175 (until his death in the year of 1187).
MALE
Abas
Abirad
Aboughamr
Aboulgharib
Arsen
Ashot
Atrnerseh
Avedis
Bagrat
Bedros (Peter)
Boghos (Paul)
Gagik
Grigor (Gregory)
Gurgen
Hethum
Hovhannes (yours truly...)
Hovsep (and his little bro...)
Jirair
Kevork (George)
Khachik
Khajag
Konstandin (...or Gosdantin?)
Krikor
Levon (Leo, Leon, etc)
Mikayel (Michael)
Mleh
Mushel (I'm not sure if this is the right name or just a bad transliteration of Mushegh)
Nerseh
Oshin
Ruben (for such a famous Cilician I've never seen any armenians named that)
Senekerim
Smbat (arabs refer to this name as Sinbad)
Tatoul
Tavit (David was listed, I removed it. This is the exact same thing)
Tornik
Toros
Vahan
Vahram
Vassak
Vesd
I'll add:
Vartan
I'll go through this later on and weed out dialectical inconsistancies. I can't use either of the modern dialects, one of which is turkish influenced, the other russian, but I'll find a standard...
Last edited by John I Tzimisces; March 19, 2007 at 12:18 PM.
Those look awesome, I'm looking forward to this mod and wish you the best of luck. One question, does anyone know here I might find orthodox style "Ikons" like those on their shields. I am doing some reskins for russia and I can't find any good sources for pictures.
Those look awesome, I'm looking forward to this mod and wish you the best of luck. One question, does anyone know here I might find orthodox style "Ikons" like those on their shields. I am doing some reskins for russia and I can't find any good sources for pictures.
Google is your best friend. Just type in orthodox icons, and there you go! Unless you're looking for a specific icon...
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I figures we won't need that many names since this game is 2 turns per year and has a shorter times span than vanilla (1175-1400). This means your family members will live "longer" and you will spend more quality time with each prince.
Those look awesome, I'm looking forward to this mod and wish you the best of luck. One question, does anyone know here I might find orthodox style "Ikons" like those on their shields. I am doing some reskins for russia and I can't find any good sources for pictures.
Aint directly sure what is what here, but these are armenian names. Some are used in noble families but are also in common people.
For noble names its like this i.e before the surname there is a anquri or a tehr. tehr means like owner or possessor and anquri, im not total sure what it means, but its something like that.
For example a noble name:
This has been used in the kingdom of Great Armenia (kind of social pyramid of nobility)
Arqa (King)
Bdeshkh (viceroy)
Ishkhanats ishkhan (grand duke)
Ishkhan (prince)
In cilicia:
Tagavor or Inqnakal (King, leader)
Bdeshkh (viceroy)
Paronats Paron (or Metz Paron)
Paron (= Mr or lord)
(some more research on this should be done before any decisions)
Last edited by Rex Armeniae; March 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM.
† Հայաստան: Իմ սիրելի Հայաստան:
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
- Under the patronage of another Rex Armeniae Drtad | Տրտադ
Lol bror
It was supposed to say "or" instead of och :p hahaa
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What main colours does armenia really have, is it brown? I mean the georgian faction has like red, black and white as its colours.. whats armenias?
And is it possible to add in the royal armenian noble infantry known as Nakhararakan Tiknapah as a unit.
Historically, the Nakhararakan Tiknapah acted often as palace guards for the royal dynasty itself, but they could also be deployed on the battlefield, where their equipment, training and ethos allowed them to do much more than just act as bodyguards. Taken the info from EB.
(Im not trying to push u guys into anything, Its lovely how much u have achieved in this short time.. so im just saying this )
And another horse archer unit may be suitable for an armenian faction, they did use alot of them(anatolia did).
Last edited by Rex Armeniae; March 20, 2007 at 12:41 PM.
† Հայաստան: Իմ սիրելի Հայաստան:
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
- Under the patronage of another Rex Armeniae Drtad | Տրտադ
FACTION: The Kingdom of Armenia
Castle Barracks Tier 1:Caucasian Mountaineer Axemen
Tier 2: Cilician Spearmen
Tier 3: Border Swordsmen
Tier 3: Border Spearmen
Tier 4: Dismounted Aspet javelineers
Tier 5: Dismounted Nakharar knights
Archery Range Tier 1: Caucasian Mountaineer Archers
Tier 2: Trebizond Archers
Tier 3: Latin Padded Sergeant Crossbowmen
Stables Tier 1: Cilician Horsemen
Tier 2: Turcopole horse archers
Tier 3: Aspet javelin cavalry
Tier 4: Latin Knights
Tier 5: Nakharar Knights
Bodyguard
Originally Posted by NaptownKnight
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