How do you define a Hero. It is all opinion so here there is no wrong or right answer.
What is yours?
Mine is: somebody who humbly makes a sacrifice to acheive a goal for the greater good of a mass.
Campidoctor
How do you define a Hero?
How do you define a Hero. It is all opinion so here there is no wrong or right answer.
What is yours?
Mine is: somebody who humbly makes a sacrifice to acheive a goal for the greater good of a mass.
Ducenarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
A hero is somebody who does something which is "right" and difficult, and he does so even if its very hard for him (because he has to fight his inner weakness, fear, etc.). Danger has to be included, and, of course, the masses would not dare to do it- out of fear- but when the hero has finished his glorious deed, everybody will say: "I wish I had done it, but only he could do it!".
the Bad and the Ugly
Re: How do you define a Hero?
I define a Hero as a person who does good things for his people, and does great acts of bravery, yet, to be a real Hero, you have to be either very popular with your contemporaries, or dead, and then people respect you....
Primicerius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Hero-
a) a person that does what is right
b) a person who is over idolized for achievements that seem greater then they are(sometimes)
c) a superhuman made in the minds of human
d) a person that risks their life for another expecting nothing back
e) a person who is above greed and uses their spare money to help
others
So put together.
A hero is someone who does what they believe is right which leads them to risking their life for another expecting nothing. Also leads them to helping those in need and not living greedily. Sometimes heroes are over-idolized by people. Sometimes they are figments of our imagination to make us wonder and give us hope. Heroes are important to society, they are in every culture, all heroes make the world a better place.
Last edited by The Walrus; March 03, 2007 at 08:17 PM.
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-Albert Camus
Campidoctor
Re: How do you define a Hero?
does it include being humble about it?
Ducenarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
I assume being humble for a hero is a christian concept, if I understand it right. In my opinion, a hero can still be very proud- as long as he does the right things.
Campidoctor
Re: How do you define a Hero?
You just defined a tragic hero. Pride leads to his downfall.Originally Posted by green tea
Things that go up must come down.
Watching, Waiting
Re: How do you define a Hero?
A hero is something different for every one. But my definition is:
Is always somebody who has made a sacrifice for the greater good. This greater good can be anything, but it has to benefit somebody other than the hero.
I don't think people with disabilites are heroes, nor do I think police officers, fire firefighters or soliders are heroes. The former aren't really doing anything other than being disabled, and the latter are only doing what they are paid to do. A police officer, fire fighter, or soldier are only heroes if they have gone above and beyond their call of duty(ex. saving children from a burning school single handedly, jumping on a grenade to save your friend).
Vicarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
So I take it that nobody subscribes to the original definition of a hero like Achilles. He didn't do things for the greater good. He did it for self glory. he didn't do what was right. He didn't risk his life for another expecting nothing back. He wasn't a person who was above greed and used his spare money to help others.
It has been surmised, that perhaps, my lord had become like a wild animal that had been kept too long. Perhaps, but whatever... freedom... so long an unremembered dream, was his.
The children of Doom...Doom's children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
Oooooh Yeeeaah!!
Re: How do you define a Hero?
a hero? they are fae and few between, but personally i see them as people who inspire for whatever reason, of all people in history to be classed as heroes my favourite is the trojan Hektor because he was portrayed as being human. but he was a good fighter, loyal, brave etc etc
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Mr Common Sense
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Hector was the hero of the Illiad, conan, just as Odysseus was hero of the Odyssey; Hector is much more admired by Homer.
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Knigget
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Are you implying that Conan was the hero of the Odyssey?
(yes, that is a joke, no need to jump in like a rabid grammar monkey and correct my siliness)
My definitions of hero are:
- Someone really stupid and really lucky
- Someone who chooses to do the right thing when he is not expected to
- Me
- The protagonist of a book (and his merry band of co-protagonists)
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Vicarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Achilles was a hero aswell. Same with Ajax, same with Diomedes etc. That was more of the ancient Greek idea of a hero. Purely a man of amazing physical and fighting prowess.The Romans however would have agreed with your definition of a hero like Hector who fought for his countrymen or Aeneus who was like Achilles in every way except that he was a man willing to give his life for his fellow men, think about the greater good of his fellow men and willing to listen and obey.
It has been surmised, that perhaps, my lord had become like a wild animal that had been kept too long. Perhaps, but whatever... freedom... so long an unremembered dream, was his.
The children of Doom...Doom's children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
Mr Common Sense
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Then why did Homer treat Hector with far more respect that Achilles? Basically there was more than one meaning of hero; it could mean brawny battle leader, but it could also mean man of honour &c. I think we are looking more at the latter than the former herein.
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Ferrets54, Honeohvovohaestse, et Pallida Mors in patronicum meum sunt
Vicarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
How did Homer treat Hector with more respect? It seems as if Achilles dragged and mutilated Hector's body and made sure he was disfigured in the afterlife. Virgil would be the author that treated Hector with more respect. Also Achilles was still a man of honour in the Illiad.
It has been surmised, that perhaps, my lord had become like a wild animal that had been kept too long. Perhaps, but whatever... freedom... so long an unremembered dream, was his.
The children of Doom...Doom's children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
Oooooh Yeeeaah!!
Re: How do you define a Hero?
That might have something to do with highlighting the fact that achilles was a terrible person that he further mutilated hektor by dragging his body around the walls of troy, as he wasnt content enough having avenged the death of pertrociles (what ever his lover's name was) which he caused anyway by sulking.
Historical Reenactor and Proud of itWinner of Best AAR Writer Award 2007
Mr Common Sense
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Achilles was hardly a man of honour; he went and sulked when his girl was taken from him. Hector is treated more respectfully until he dies; and even then the way he is given to Priam is pretty respectful, too. No, I tend to disagree with your assessment on this point.
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Vicarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Now I don't recall Homer saying that Achilles was dishonoured by sulking and playing his guitar or w/e instead of fighting. I am pretty sure that noone would have called him dishonourable besides perhaps Patroculus.
Perhaps or maybe its a warning not to **** with Achilles.
It has been surmised, that perhaps, my lord had become like a wild animal that had been kept too long. Perhaps, but whatever... freedom... so long an unremembered dream, was his.
The children of Doom...Doom's children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
Mr Common Sense
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Patroclus called him dishonourable for abandoning his companions; if I remember rightly Odysseus also uses his honour to try to persuade him to fight; and the very ways Homer describes the situation lead us to the conclusion that Achilles is acting dishonourably.
primus pater cunobelin erat; sum in patronicium imb39, domi wilpuri; Saint-Germain, MasterAdnin, Pnutmaster, Scorch, Blau&Gruen,
Ferrets54, Honeohvovohaestse, et Pallida Mors in patronicum meum sunt
Vicarius
Re: How do you define a Hero?
Agreed..but he still was the central hero of the story. Also I think that Homer described Hector in bad ways, giving him bad attributes and epithets. Achilles, although not perfect and having flaws, was still the "good guy"(If you can call it that) in the story.
Last edited by -Conan the Barbarian-; March 04, 2007 at 10:24 AM.
It has been surmised, that perhaps, my lord had become like a wild animal that had been kept too long. Perhaps, but whatever... freedom... so long an unremembered dream, was his.
The children of Doom...Doom's children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
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