TLR v1.9 Beta - City Titles / Traits / Ancillaries Discussion

[Lopus]

Hmm, maybe we should ask some of the folks at Deus Lo Vult. They have some nice ones they are developing.

There was someone who offered to help with graphics. Can't seem to find the post.

That would be nice, meanwhile, tornnight and Averroës, here is a list of the modded BBB traits, unfortunately, I've no idea what effects to put for each province so if you could give me some help, it'd be great. I just put is a generic tax and trading bonus. I could copy the ones in BBB, but it'd not help me for the newer provinces.

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[Averroës]

Luckily I'm retired and happily divorced, so I have all the time I want.

Those look great, Lopus. 5% is the standard for most of the BB&B titles. Major trading cities have 10% and a rare few have 10%-15% plus something extra like -loyalty or +command or both. It seems reasonable to use 5% for all of the new provinces and use the BB&B figures for the originals.

Will you also be doing the Islamic ones? For example Lisbon has a dearmad_lisbon title which will show as Duke of Lisbon; but if an Islamic faction takes it the the title shows as Emir of Lisbon. So each title has two sets of ancilliaries and triggers, and two sets of listings in the export_ancillaries.txt for descriptions and mouseovers and two sets in the enums.txt list.

[Lopus]

Luckily I'm retired and happily divorced, so I have all the time I want.

Those look great, Lopus. 5% is the standard for most of the BB&B titles. Major trading cities have 10% and a rare few have 10%-15% plus something extra like -loyalty or +command or both. It seems reasonable to use 5% for all of the new provinces and use the BB&B figures for the originals.

Will you also be doing the Islamic ones? For example Lisbon has a dearmad_lisbon title which will show as Duke of Lisbon; but if an Islamic faction takes it the the title shows as Emir of Lisbon. So each title has two sets of ancilliaries and triggers, and two sets of listings in the export_ancillaries.txt for descriptions and mouseovers and two sets in the enums.txt list.

dearmad for non-islamic
idearmad for islamic

Yes, I will be doing that too, although if I have time, I'll probably break it down to slightly more "faction specific"

For example, the term Duke (Dukas) was originally used by the English and French nobility to refer to Barons with multiple holdings (often under different liege lords). The more common term for a lord with an extended, but connected holding was Earl (English) or Count (French), for the Germans (HRE) it'd be Graf. So my thinking is to break it down, if English/French/Scottish/Sicilian it'd be Earl or Count (probably count as the English and Scottish courts c. 1100 were using that as their primary tongue).
Graf for HRE (and probably Poland/Hungary??? I'm not sure)
Jarl for Denmark/Kievan Rus' (the Rus' at this time were basically Norse)
Doge (technically Duke as well, but used to mean city leader) for Venice/Milan.
Conde for Spain/Portugal (although I'm certain Portugal used a slightly different spelling).
Emir for the Almoravid/Seljuks/Fatamids. (Maybe Atabeg for Seljuks)
Governor for Byzantium.

It's mostly copying and editing work.

What do you guys think?

[Averroës]

Sounds great!

The Hungarian/Magyar for Duke is Herceg
The Greek for Duke is Doukas
The Polish for Duke/Prince is książę although Ksiaze would probably do.

[Lopus]

The Hungarian/Magyar for Duke is Herceg

Ah, I see, I suppose that is somewhat similar to the term Herzog?

The Greek for Duke is Doukas

Hmmm ... Doukas Doukas? Because there is a Byzantine family called the Doukas. What about Strategoi?

The Polish for Duke/Prince is książę although Ksiaze would probably do.

Why not? I suppose that shouldn't be too hard to do.

[Averroës]

Ah, I see, I suppose that is somewhat similar to the term Herzog?

Hmmm ... Doukas Doukas? Because there is a Byzantine family called the Doukas. What about Strategoi?
Why not? I suppose that shouldn't be too hard to do.

Beats me! I suspect that herzog and herceg have the same root somewhere.

I just used the following online translators and plugged in Duke.

http://www.finnhun.com/

http://www.kypros.org/cgi-bin/lexicon

http://www.ectaco.co.uk/English-Polish-Dictionary/

I have a whole page in my favorites devoted to such online translators, even one for Old English/Anglo-Saxon.

[Lopus]

Ah, thanks for the resource. My, we seemed to have strayed from the topic of this thread. Anyway, I'll try to finish what I can today.

[Averroës]

Tornnight will have to beat us soundly about the head. This happens in my research too. I'll start off innocently enough searching the web for one thing and 5 hours later I'll be happily reading about the mating habits of the blind pygmy dragonfish of Upper Sbobovia. Focus isn't my strong point. But if it's unusual, obsolete and completely useless, I'll find it on the web!

[Lopus]

Tornnight will have to beat us soundly about the head.

True enough, he probably will.

This happens in my research too. I'll start off innocently enough searching the web for one thing and 5 hours later I'll be happily reading about the mating habits of the blind pygmy dragonfish of Upper Sbobovia.

Ah! Yes, although my wandering tends to head off into unusual cooking methods for cockroaches and fly larvae.

Focus isn't my strong point. But if it's unusual, obsolete and completely useless, I'll find it on the web!

I tend to call it trivia gathering. I am a font of absolutely true, but useless information.

[tornnight]

Good news!

acegogo has offered to help with the graphics.

[Lopus]

Hmm, maybe we should ask some of the folks at Deus Lo Vult. They have some nice ones they are developing.

There was someone who offered to help with graphics. Can't seem to find the post.

Do you mean the heraldic system in DLV? Looks sweet, I'll try it out. Do you think they'd let you have/use it? Or did you mean the career system (here)? If so, Oda Nobunaga says he's willing to make it compatible with other mods

It probably isn't compatible with other mods without changing aspects of the other mod that i didn't intend. i plan on making it compatible with vanilla and other major mods if its requested. if you are a modder and want to add it to your mod PM and ill send you just the lines i've changed or added and you can place them into your own.

Great news, acegogo has offered to help with the graphics.

Very nice.

[tornnight]

I mean the heraldic system. I'm not sure if they'd be inclined to let us use it.
I haven't spoken with them.

That career system looks great. We should definately try and get it added.

[acegogo]

OK, if anybody can tell me what they need created or retouched gfx-wise let me know, Í´m no modder so if you would point me where to get the current gfx, please let me know

[Averroës]

Thanks, Acegogo! We need the heraldry shield graphics for the new settlements, to extend them beyond the vanilla settlement titles in BB&B.

The heraldry shields used by the titles are all found in the mod directory The_Long_Road/data/ui/ancillaries/

They all start with "dearmad_". These are the .tga files which are used by the Blood, Broads and Bastards mod for the title system. They are all 33 x 41 pixels. We need new heraldry shield graphics for the new settlements, to extend them beyond the vanilla settlement titles in BB&B.

It looks like Dearmad used the existing coats of arms for many of the settlements. So for the new ones, we could do the same. For example, there is a coat of arms shown shown in the Wikipedia article on Salamanca.

What I don't know how to do is convert that coat of arms image into a 33 x 41 .tga image which can then be added to ancillaries folder and used by Lopus' extensions of Dearmad and Pnutmaster's wonderful BB&B titles.

Many, if not all of them, can be found on Wikipedia seaching under the modern city. Those that don't, like Siouah we can just reuse or modify slightly a nearby one, like Jedda.

[tornnight]

Yep that is exactly right. I like it.

Hmm I don't have a list of all the missing ones.

The list of provinces/settlements are in
data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\descr_regions_and_settlement_name_lookup.txt

I'll try and get a better list when I get some time.

[Lopus]

Torn, I looked at the DLV 2.0, their map is the same Bigmap you used for TLR 1.8 and they added titles for those. Maybe you could talk to them about using it?

That way, only the regions you added on will need to be worked on.

[tornnight]

I've sent a plea for both the title graphics and the career system. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

[repman]

@tornight
My opinion:
DLV uses although stuff from other opensource mods as BBB, Darth, Spurius,...
Some title graphics created by TokusMaximus for vanilla regions from DLV 2.0 will be included in BBB 2.0 for the public I think.
If you want the nice title graphic (Duke of....) created by TokusMaximus for the extended regions to include it in your mod tLR then there will be no problem from my side...
The graphics from the other stuff as careersystem, crown + swords... I think this are core elements of DLV 2.0. Every mod should be different so I'm hesitating......So be inspired and maybe you can create something better ?

But we will discuss this between me, Tokus Maximus and theDrakken.

repman

[Lopus]

Heck boss torn, just the extended BBB would be great, we'd still have to add in the new provinces you made, but it would really ease up the workload.

[tornnight]

@tornight
My opinion:
DLV uses although stuff from other opensource mods as BBB, Darth, Spurius,...
Some title graphics created by TokusMaximus for vanilla regions from DLV 2.0 will be included in BBB 2.0 for the public I think.
If you want the nice title graphic (Duke of....) created by TokusMaximus for the extended regions to include it in your mod tLR then there will be no problem from my side...
The graphics from the other stuff as careersystem, crown + swords... I think this are core elements of DLV 2.0. Every mod should be different so I'm hesitating......So be inspired and maybe you can create something better ?

But we will discuss this between me, Tokus Maximus and theDrakken.

repman

I completely understand. Great work on your mod btw.

Heck boss torn, just the extended BBB would be great, we'd still have to add in the new provinces you made, but it would really ease up the workload.

Yep definately.