America's Shadow Government

[Lunar4]

http://www.american.edu/salla/Articles/BB-CIA.htm#Legal

..It is worth repeating that the CIA is legally authorized by Congress to transfer, “without regard to any provisions of law”, funds from other government agencies for the generation of a black budget. There is strong evidence that the CIA uses this power to disregard law to complement whatever funds it can generate through Congressional appropriations, with funds gained through the drugs trade and organized crime that is laundered through different government agencies. The total annual sum of the black budget is best estimated in the form of accounting anomalies in the main departmental recipient of all black budget funds, the DoD, and is in the vicinity of 1.1 trillion dollars that funds a network of classified intelligence activities and covert operations that collectively form a second Manhattan Project.

It needs to be emphasized that the ‘unofficial’ black budget and Manhattan Project have legally evolved in ways to respond to a national security contingency that is yet to be revealed to the American public. The classified adversary that this elaborate secret system has been developed to respond to is arguably a potential threat that warrants an extraordinary network of covert programs that dwarf the original Manhattan Project and annually consume as much as 1.1 trillion dollars in a non-transparent manner. More disturbingly, the importance of Manhattan II is such that the CIA has evidently used organized criminal networks and the drug trade as sources to partially fund Manhattan II.

[General Dissaray]

That is very interesting. Though I wonder as to its validaty. If the CIA is willing to jump thur such elaborate hoops to get this 1.1 trillion for this supper secret second Manhattan Project I think they would take a little more cair with their book keeping so as not to be found out. I wonder what this fabled second Manhattan Project is any way? It must be supper cool if it costs 1.1 trillion every year.

[bdh]

That is very interesting. Though I wonder as to its validaty. If the CIA is willing to jump thur such elaborate hoops to get this 1.1 trillion for this supper secret second Manhattan Project I think they would take a little more cair with their book keeping so as not to be found out. I wonder what this fabled second Manhattan Project is any way? It must be supper cool if it costs 1.1 trillion every year.

Its nonsense. The entire budget for the United States government is about 2 trillion or so. The idea that half of that just disappears is absurd. I'm sure they have all sorts of black budget money, but secret projects costing 1.1 trillion is just conspiracy theories.

[Shigawire]

Its nonsense. The entire budget for the United States government is about 2 trillion or so. The idea that half of that just disappears is absurd. I'm sure they have all sorts of black budget money, but secret projects costing 1.1 trillion is just conspiracy theories.

take a look at this guy:



It's quite commonplace actually. You grossly underestimate the military budget of the United States, and the US Government's codependency on the Military Industrial Complex. Eisenhower saw what a monster he had created, and made a warning speech about this as he was leaving office. Calling something a "conspiracy theory" doesn't necessarily help dissuade discussion or play down facts. It's just a knee-jerk reaction to something one doesn't understand. It doesn't work on me. There is this contradictory dichotomy in the minds of many people living in the US. In this dichotomy, the US military is on the one hand enormously powerful, for jingoistic purposes (and based on some truth), but on the other hand they have this convenient delusion that the military budget isn't as large as the reputation suggests. I'm actually under the impression that the military, the paramilitary, all intelligence and covert action agencies, all of these together constitute a much greater "budget" than the official one could ever be.

If the US Gov. can lose 2.3 trillion USD on pure corruption..... if indeed it was corruption.

This is a very dangerous situation for the USA. Domestic Democracy combined with External Imperialism has always been the least stable forms of government. Look at Athens in the Peloponnesian war, or SPQR after the Gracchi brothers changed matters ca 133 BCE. I fear the Republic won't hold for very long.

[General Dissaray]

What could any one spend 1.1 trillion anualy on? This bafles me. It is a lot of money. How can you keep some thing that expencive secret from a people as nosey as we Americans? That is what I want to know. I don't mind so much that they are spending 1.1 trillion on some thing, but if I am paying for it I shuld at least know a little about it.

[Sheep]

If the US Gov. can lose 2.3 trillion USD on pure corruption..... if indeed it was corruption.

"You don't actually think they spent twenty thousand dollars on a hammer, thirty thousand on a toilet seat do you?"

[RZZZA]

More hypocrisy from the stupid cia...

Project MKULTRA anyone? The contra affair anyone? This is why I laugh whenever someone professes to me how government is just looking out for your safety. Yeah, they care so much for our safety that theyre willing to talk out of both sides of their mouths...?

[Farnan]

Also, our government is too incompetent to do keep such a secret, it can't keep anything secret...

[Caelius]

This is almost as absurd as that claim on the X-Files that FEMA was a Shadow Government....

[boofhead]

I hate these conspiracy theories....I have to live with them all the time. Simple answer to this particular theory: if that is true then I will not even discuss this matter further.....BOOM (blows own head off). Who wants to live life as a potential paranoid? Freedom is the word, confidence is the by-product. Do not let the doubters make you doubt. Life is too short.

[the_mango55]

The CIA spends 1.1 trillion dollars annually, and nobody knows where it goes or misses it?

Riiiiiight.

[Da Skinna]

I believe it.







*snort*

[Lunar4]

Believe whatever you want, just dont say I didnt warn you

[Tom Paine]

1.1trillion dollars... when military expenditure is only $0.536732trillion? It appears that someone somewhere is miscalculating something rather badly...

[Dunecat]

Especially when we can't levy enough money to budget and sustain the military we have...

[Thanatos]

Quite fool! Speak not of such topoics unless you wish to be contacted by the La Li Lu Le Lo!


The Patriots are everywhere, you know.

[Metzgershund]

MANHATTEN 2 WILL WORK NICELY WITH OUR ALLIANCE WITH THE MARTIAN SPARTANS FROM UNDER THE SEA UNDER THE SEA DARLING IT'S BETTER DOWN WHERE IT'S WETTER TAKE IT FROM ME AND NESSY CAN COME TOO SHE WILL BRING THE LASER-TOTING OCTUPI FROM TRON O WAIT THAT WASN'T TRON LOL OK BUT THE SHARKS WITH LAZER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS WILL COME FROM AUSTIN POWERS BECAUSE THEN WE'LL ALL DO THE BARACUDA DANCE AND BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER POLAR BEARS > PANDA BEARS LOLZK!

I believe that's how it's going to go down..... Yo.

Honestly that sum of money vanishing would definately alert the Congress that is, um, Democrat, amirite?

[Thanatos]

MANHATTEN 2 WILL WORK NICELY WITH OUR ALLIANCE WITH THE MARTIAN SPARTANS FROM UNDER THE SEA UNDER THE SEA DARLING IT'S BETTER DOWN WHERE IT'S WETTER TAKE IT FROM ME AND NESSY CAN COME TOO SHE WILL BRING THE LASER-TOTING OCTUPI FROM TRON O WAIT THAT WASN'T TRON LOL OK BUT THE SHARKS WITH LAZER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS WILL COME FROM AUSTIN POWERS BECAUSE THEN WE'LL ALL DO THE BARACUDA DANCE AND BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER POLAR BEARS > PANDA BEARS LOLZK!

I believe that's how it's going to go down..... Yo.

Honestly that sum of money vanishing would definately alert the Congress that is, um, Democrat, amirite?

What...?

[Metzgershund]

don't spam, it's disgusting.

[bdh]

If the US Gov. can lose 2.3 trillion USD on pure corruption..... if indeed it was corruption.

You do realize thats over the couse of decades, right, not in one year?

Of course the black budget is going to add up over many years. The large number is being brandied about like its all in one year's budget, which is completely absurd.

I'm actually under the impression that the military, the paramilitary, all intelligence and covert action agencies, all of these together constitute a much greater "budget" than the official one could ever be.

They don't. Its all ********, much like how that documentary deliberately misled you and gave you a false impression of the money being lost.