Script or No Script?

[DaVinci]

I would like to hear the players opinion, if they think the last remaining "show_me"-script in Chivalry (AI Add Money under certain circumstances) should stay or not ...

This script is activated through clicking on the advisors face, that pops up at the game-start, and for saved games, the player has to press ESC, click on the question-button of the appearing window, then the advisor pops up again.

Main thoughts about that:

Pro: Smaller AI factions (also the bigger ones if they lost many regions) are getting money every turn extra. That prevents them to going under eventually too soon.

Contra: The player must activate it at the start, and for every reloaded game. Otherwise, it might be a source for bugs. Players often forget this task.

Let me hear your opinions ...

[BNS]

i often forget to load the script, but i dont get extra ctds, maybe you can do something like EB, where the script comes up automatically...

[DaVinci]

i often forget to load the script, but i dont get extra ctds, maybe you can do something like EB, where the script comes up automatically...

Afaik, not possible for show_me scripts in saved games mode.

And as you say you forget it often ... this script makes only sense, if the player strictly activates it in saved games after the reload, otherwise it is meaningless, that's the problem. And certainly, players always play with saved games.

So another question is: Who forgets to activate the script for saved games, the majority or the minority?

[Zenith Darksea]

Well, in EB, whether or not you've loaded a save game, whenever you click on a settlement or on the faction buttom at the bottom right hand of the interface the advisor will pop up. It's certainly a lot easier to remember to do that than to go through the menu and click the help button. I always forget to do that.

[Shadow_Imperator]

I don't forget to do it, but I find on hard the enemy is quick to swamp you.

In my last game, I had the Siculo-Normans, Hungarians, Seljuk Turks and Cilician Armenians dismembering my Empire left, right and center, it was a disaster and the troops they had arrayed against me were formidable indeed...

[Atterdag]

Script where, how?

[BNS]

Well, in EB, whether or not you've loaded a save game, whenever you click on a settlement or on the faction buttom at the bottom right hand of the interface the advisor will pop up. It's certainly a lot easier to remember to do that than to go through the menu and click the help button. I always forget to do that.

yeah DV thats what i meant..........

In my last game, I had the Siculo-Normans, Hungarians, Seljuk Turks and Cilician Armenians dismembering my Empire left, right and center, it was a disaster and the troops they had arrayed against me were formidable indeed...

sounds fun, as i rarely get my ass whooped by the rtw engine, lemme guess you where the Byzantines, i just conquered the siculo normans first, that got money pumping in, then i ocentrated on the east aqaisnt the seljuks and those traitorous Armenians, it was a 3 way war on asia minor !

[Shadow_Imperator]

sounds fun, as i rarely get my ass whooped by the rtw engine, lemme guess you where the Byzantines, i just conquered the siculo normans first, that got money pumping in, then i ocentrated on the east aqaisnt the seljuks and those traitorous Armenians, it was a 3 way war on asia minor !

Yeah, but even then, I make sure my islands are secure, between Konstantinopolous, Kastro and Rhodes, I kept in the green, even tho I had close twelve units of Skoutatoi and 5 units of Excuboutes Tagma (sp?) on the field.. Heh, The Excuboutes were gold chevroned by the time I quit! DAMN BARBARIANS!

[Turk]

pls make script it makes more fun with them

[DaVinci]

pls make script it makes more fun with them

... what do you mean exactly, i don't understand: Keep the existing script mentioned in first posts or make a new script?

[Turk]

i mean like scripts spawn army which bring more historical accuracy (rebellions)
and a new challenge

[DaVinci]

Well, the topic is rather to find out or to hear what the players think about the existing script ... and not to edit more.

However, spawned armies make only sense if they occur on a random base at random locations in my view (if they shall really increase the challenge). And mainly, those AI's don't match the intended idea, and can perhaps destroy more than add to a mod-design-balance. However, they are not bad for faction-mods, and can be a significant and important content/factor, especially as complete spawning faction to a certain event/date. But it doesn't actually fit to Chiv's design (as yet, perhaps there'll occur still a special fitting idea in future).
Generally, i don't think the flavor of a mod is dependant on spawned armies.
Btw., the Seljuks are the strongest designed faction regarding their unit properties/training and other things.

Ok, back to topic.

[Kennylz]

Keep it.. Though, to be honest, this is the first I've heard of it! I've -never- activated it, but I usually do with the 4tpy scripts..

Does advice have to be on?

[drak10687]

no, I've turned off advice, and I even muted and deafened the adviser in the pref. file, but it still pops up in the top left corner, and all you have to do is click it.