Dismounted Boyer Sons Overpowerd?

**chewy** · February 21, 2007, 07:07 PM

Does anyone else feel this unit is a bit overpowered? I was screwing around in custom battle today and was doing some 1v1 infantry battles and i never ever lost a single battle with dismounted boyer sons. Even agianst Varigian Guards i was actually able to fight them down into tie with me having 1 man left or viceversa. Combine that with how easy it is to get them and thier armor upgrade in the campaign i think this unit is a bit too good. Maybe they should be toned down just a bit in 2.2?

**Arksa** · February 22, 2007, 02:05 AM

Test couple of reiters against an army. That unit is overpowered too IMO. Missile attack 20 and they fight very well too.

**Silent Assassin** · February 22, 2007, 08:37 AM

They should stay their stats has they are IMO it`s almost they`re only good units

**chewy** · February 22, 2007, 11:27 AM

I think reiters are fine as they are. The poor range thier pistols offer make them vulnerable to missle cavs with bows. A light missle cav would always be outside thier range and would just pick the reiters apart. Or u can just use a light cav to charge them and pin them then bring in a heavy cav to crush them into submission.

**Arksa** · February 23, 2007, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by chewy

I think reiters are fine as they are. The poor range thier pistols offer make them vulnerable to missle cavs with bows. A light missle cav would always be outside thier range and would just pick the reiters apart. Or u can just use a light cav to charge them and pin them then bring in a heavy cav to crush them into submission.

It's overpowered when I use them against AI. They just chase them with general's bodyguard and get themselves killed in the process

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**chewy** · February 23, 2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Arksa

It's overpowered when I use them against AI. They just chase them with general's bodyguard and get themselves killed in the process .

That can be said of ANY missle cav. The ai would use any sort of cavalry to chase down ur missle cav be it heavy,light or other missle cav. Either way whoever is chasing ur missle cav they'll just die. The only thing is reiters just do it faster then other missle cav. Hoever imo this doesen't have any significant impact in balance terms. The only thing that i relaly view as unbalanced about reiters is thier ammo. Thier basically javelin cav with gunpowder weapons and thus i think thier ammo supply should be as small as other javelin cav.

**Papal_Knight** · February 23, 2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by chewy

Does anyone else feel this unit is a bit overpowered? I was screwing around in custom battle today and was doing some 1v1 infantry battles and i never ever lost a single battle with dismounted boyer sons. Even agianst Varigian Guards i was actually able to fight them down into tie with me having 1 man left or viceversa. Combine that with how easy it is to get them and thier armor upgrade in the campaign i think this unit is a bit too good. Maybe they should be toned down just a bit in 2.2?

agreed. they seem pretty damn hairy, IMO.