Chiv's Role-Playing / Additional Info

[DaVinci]

So here is a bit additional info about the traits-ancillary-system (since 0.65, but some are changed since 0.65):

1) There are new traits: Titles and properties, some are pretty important to mention:

"King of" (or "Duke of" or similar titles)

a) For the faction leader
- This title gets every faction leader by default. If he died, the heir gets this title in the next turn (needs one turn to be crowned).
- The title brings a lot of advantages to this character (in the text you can see only +1 influence, but there are more hidden effects).
- If you loose a certain settlement, mainly the capital (at the start of the campaign), this character will loose this title due to the lost power of the main region where he was crowned. Instead, he will get a (hidden) title "Not King of", that means, not that he only looses the former positive effects, he will gain as well negative effects! Unrest and other bad things can happen then.

b) For the faction heir
- Some "King of" titles can be gained by the faction heir, with similar positive effects to the above ones. And same negative effects if he looses this title.
- Those are special traits: The faction always has to achieve certain win conditions to get those additional titles for the heir. As there is for example Danmark: The danish King is the fac leader, but if the faction occupies Sweden or Norwege, the heir gets the title for example "King of Sweden", as long the faction can hold Sweden (the main settlement of Sweden). Another example: The Crusader factions (HRE, France, England and Sicily) can get the title "King of Jerusalem", the heir, but he has to archieve formerly the trait "Crusader" (that means: battles with muslim factions), before he can get this title, and naturally Jerusalem has to be occupied.

B) Member of the Royal House
This titlle can get only the fac leader or heir. It increase to probability to have childs - royal blood line enhancement. With influence improvement as well.

C) Not Member of the Royal House
This title will get every family member (general characters), who is not currently the fac leader or the heir (this changes if the heir or the just th leader dies), then the influence of these characters is important to getting the crown heir. Furthermore the title has -1 influence effect.

2) There are many new retinues (ancillaries):

Experience them in the campaign, as there is for example "son of a noble house", that means, the family-character is hosting a foreign noble son (waht was often the case in middle-age that noble sons learning several things). that is only one little example of the historcal ancillary-options.

Now, there are some retinues, which are dependant on traits, ie. the inquisitor or cardinal can only get who is currently a member of the Royal House.

Further hint: The religious conflict(s) is a bit altered, ie. the conversion rate is decreased in this version 0.9. And overall that means you'll have some higher probs to hold settlements in foreign lands with other cultures, if you are not for example call out the "Martial Law", what is always only the last "tool" to break resistance. However, the cardinal or inquisitor retinues can help, as well other ones with influence-improvement, to calm the occupied region.

Enjoy the exciting role-play in Chivalry ...

P.S. I'm sure Atterdag can give eventually some more info about the retinues (ancillaries) by request.

[Ataegina]

so the governors/family members ill receive the titles by "rank status" ?

[DaVinci]

so the governors/family members ill receive the titles by "rank status" ?

Where did i speak about ranks? In Chivalry is no rank-system, as it wouldn't fit into the medieval world, where feudal lords had the say about life or death (mainly), and they were the battle-leaders, and not characters who served as "junior-generals" and gaining higher ranks with the time (as example for a rank-system). Such a rank-system, you can find in TFT (Late Roman Republic) for example.

The royal/unroyal system, as explained above, serves the medieval kingshouse bloodline-track.

And all in all, the fac leader and heir are both the very important characters for any faction, through the current traits/ancillary system. I hope we will improve/refine the system still for the next version.

[Ataegina]

Maybe i've not use the correct term(s)

But you've answer what i've wanted know !!

so such titles are just for royal bloodline or per conquest , if a family member conquer "poland" he become "king of poland", am i right?

[DaVinci]

Nope, Chiv is a pretty strict historical mod. Those titles can only be gained if the faction had "king of"-relations to the region(s) in history. The goal of the king of titles is to reflect the history (not fantasy empires ) and the win conditions. This task isn't finished by now. We will see what we will achieve in the next release in this regard. It is open for discussion as well, if one has historical-based suggestions, that fit into the timeframe (1072-1222).

Btw., the fac leader should rather be the home-defender, as he has mainly one "king of" title. The heir should be the one who conquers regions that a more wide away. As he is the one who can get additional king of titles, and as well it is an advantage to give xperience to the heir, as he is just the leader in future. So a further note, ie. the King of Jerusalem title: So for instance, the heir is already the King of J. and the King of the homeland dies, then naturally the current K. of J. looses the title and gains the King-title of the homeland. The the new heir can get the former K. of J. title, if he is already a Crusader (trait), that menas the new heir has to be a former fighter in the Holy Land regions, and well, he should be near Jerusalem to protect this settlement