Mod to remove vices from game and make leaders immortal?

**Leto Atreides II** · February 15, 2007, 07:16 PM

Is there a mod that removes vices from the game (that is, makes it so your leaders can't get them)? If not, how would I go about making one myself? Also, is it possible to make my leaders never die of old age and how (or is there a mod already out that does this)? Thanks.

**makanyane** · February 16, 2007, 02:10 AM

You can't make them immortal, age they die at is hardcoded within a certain random range. You could more turns out of them if you use a multiple turn per year script mod - one that has only one winter every so many turns, as winter is what controls ageing process of characters.

To stop them getting bad traits you don't want, look in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt
you can comment out (use ; before each line) the triggers for any traits you don't want generals to get.

If any generals start game with traits you don't want they can be removed in data/world/maps/campaign/campaign_name/descr_strat.txt

**Cyrus the Virus** · February 16, 2007, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by makanyane

You can't make them immortal, age they die at is hardcoded within a certain random range.

Can we change that random range, because my generals always dies between 61-65 nowadays

**makanyane** · February 16, 2007, 10:08 AM

No you can't change the range that was bit I meant was hardcoded. I didn't state what it was, as I'm not 100% sure, I think I've had occasional leaders get into 80's but most do seem to go soon after 60. I'd guess they get a percentage chance of dying per turn after a certain age, but afaik none of that is moddable.

**MasterOfNone** · February 16, 2007, 10:37 AM

You can set a starting age of over a hundred if you want them older.

The best thing to do to represent immortality in RTW/BI is to change the death messages/title/image to imply that the character has gone somewhere rather than popped his clogs...

**Leto Atreides II** · February 16, 2007, 02:31 AM

Thanks a bunch. Getting more turns out of them will do. I was only able to locate the following do-it-yourself multiple turn per year script, though. The only other version I could find is for RTR. This is what I found:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ght=turns+year

The download link in the thread is dead, only the do-it-yourself thing is useful. Is there any version of the script that I don't have to do something to load everytime I load a saved game? Or at least, do you have any working links to any multiple-turn-per-year scripts? Thanks.

**makanyane** · February 16, 2007, 02:49 AM

Try here:
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=50576
or here for full listing of more versions (about 4th mod down)
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=104

Don't think the having to re-start script thing ever got solved, but look through
Myrddraal's links from the DL section and see if any threads say anything about that.

**Arbaces** · February 16, 2007, 01:30 PM

Or make an 1000tpy (999 summers, 1 winter).

**MasterOfNone** · February 16, 2007, 04:02 PM

**Leto Atreides II** · February 17, 2007, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Oroles

Or make an 1000tpy (999 summers, 1 winter).

Lol, yeah, I was thinking somewhere along those lines, except I was thinking 11 summers to 1 winter - not 999.

People suddenly croaking at any time after 65 is one reason I wanted to do this. They're as good as dead at that point. What's the use of a general who dies on the eve of a major battle, not of an assassin's blade but of old age?

**boofhead** · February 17, 2007, 01:03 AM

I play for the feeling of HISTORICAL immersion LOL. Immortal generals are a little too much for me. Why not just play realistically and have them retire to a nearby comfortable, wealthy city when they hit 60?

They usually deserve a rest! And besides, it adds an extra element to the game when you have to focus on getting lesser generals' stats up.

There are ways to avoid vices. The main ones I think are-

(1) Never have more than 50,000 denarii in the "bank" at the end of a turn (gives generals in cities negative vices)

(2) Never leave a general idle in the field for too long

There are others, you can find the triggers in the EDCT.txt mentioned above. Just avoid them.

**Leto Atreides II** · February 17, 2007, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by boofhead

I play for the feeling of HISTORICAL immersion LOL. Immortal generals are a little too much for me. Why not just play realistically and have them retire to a nearby comfortable, wealthy city when they hit 60?

They usually deserve a rest! And besides, it adds an extra element to the game when you have to focus on getting lesser generals' stats up.

There are ways to avoid vices. The main ones I think are-

(1) Never have more than 50,000 denarii in the "bank" at the end of a turn (gives generals in cities negative vices)

(2) Never leave a general idle in the field for too long

There are others, you can find the triggers in the EDCT.txt mentioned above. Just avoid them.

Well, that's not how I prefer to play. I don't play for historical immersion. The last time I played RTW, the constantly dying leaders and vices got so annoying I couldn't stand to continue to play and uninstalled the game. I know how to avoid giving your leaders vices. That's just not a gameplay mechanic I appreciate. I love hoarding money.

Hence, the reason I want to mod - so I can play the game the way I prefer to play it.