World Government

**MasterAdnin** · February 15, 2007, 06:24 PM

I was just thinking. If eventually all European Nations combine into one, ie the EU, and it spread around the world and more and more countries merged into it, basically creating a world government, then would that be bad rather than good? Think about it, if it is like current governments, then one man would rule. Obviously power corrupts, would this corruption eventually lead to the world becoming ruled by a dictator? It could just be paranoia, but I don't know. I think the concept of a world government is horrible. What do you guys think?

Salaam,
Adnan

**Mythos** · February 15, 2007, 06:52 PM

It is a matter of organisation. It can be done as long as the departmentalisation is correct and takes care of the local needs. We could use Switzerland as the civil servant country.

**Aristophanes** · February 15, 2007, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by MasterAdnin

I was just thinking. If eventually all European Nations combine into one, ie the EU, and it spread around the world and more and more countries merged into it, basically creating a world government, then would that be bad rather than good? Think about it, if it is like current governments, then one man would rule. Obviously power corrupts, would this corruption eventually lead to the world becoming ruled by a dictator? It could just be paranoia, but I don't know. I think the concept of a world government is horrible. What do you guys think?

Salaam,
Adnan

Yes, it's a scary thought.

**Hotspur** · February 15, 2007, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by MasterAdnin

I was just thinking. If eventually all European Nations combine into one, ie the EU, and it spread around the world and more and more countries merged into it, basically creating a world government, then would that be bad rather than good? Think about it, if it is like current governments, then one man would rule. Obviously power corrupts, would this corruption eventually lead to the world becoming ruled by a dictator? It could just be paranoia, but I don't know. I think the concept of a world government is horrible. What do you guys think?

Salaam,
Adnan

Never gonna happen, at least not in our lifetime. Probably not in our children's lifetime either. Nationalism is here to stay.

**jankren** · February 15, 2007, 07:41 PM

World Government would only happen if there are alien invasions from the outer space which threaten the survival of humanity... History tells that people would only unite if they all share a common enemy.

By the way, the most important aspect if there is such a thing as Global Government is decentralization.

**Erik** · February 15, 2007, 08:02 PM

The problem with having a "world government" is that not everybody in the world shares the same values.

Scandinavians are different from Southern Europeans, and they are both different from Brits and Eastern Europeans.
Finding common ground between these groups is proving hard enough, if you add in North Africans, Sub-Saharan Africans, people from the Middle-East, central Asians, Indians, East Asians, Indonesians, Australians, South Americans, Mexicans, North Americans, and Michael Jackson....then you can pretty much forget about it.

The only way it could work is trough a brutal dictatorship what won't hesitate on committing genocide on any groups that try to split off.

**Kscott** · February 15, 2007, 09:39 PM

Eh, Global Confederacy is the way to go.

**LoZz** · February 16, 2007, 05:21 AM

absolute power corrupts absolute all.

you see the kind of power trip those war lords in africa go on? imagen if one of them was put in charge of the whole of africa?

its not practical, the world at the moument is to fragmented, maybe in a few 100 years down the line but we all need to start talking the same lingo first

**Tiwaz** · February 16, 2007, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by MasterAdnin

I was just thinking. If eventually all European Nations combine into one, ie the EU, and it spread around the world and more and more countries merged into it, basically creating a world government, then would that be bad rather than good? Think about it, if it is like current governments, then one man would rule. Obviously power corrupts, would this corruption eventually lead to the world becoming ruled by a dictator? It could just be paranoia, but I don't know. I think the concept of a world government is horrible. What do you guys think?

Salaam,
Adnan

Would there be "one man" on top? It is my, perhaps bit faulty but still, understanding that European system relies heavily on parliamentarism where no single person is vested with large amount of power. As opposed to effective monarchies of US president centered system.

So while global "prime minister" would have lots of power he would not be able to be a dictator unless he convinved parliamentary system to grant him this power.

Either way, like Erik said it is impossible. There are no universal values which could be applied to whole world. Thus making global government impossible.

**Denny Crane!** · February 16, 2007, 10:15 AM

What about getting rid of the whole idea of the state rather than envisioning global rule?

No more government, anarcho capatilism.

Peter

**Time Commander Bob** · February 16, 2007, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Seneca

What about getting rid of the whole idea of the state rather than envisioning global rule?

No more government, anarcho capatilism.

Peter

People will always manage to fill the power vacuum though - militarist groups would emerge with no governments to stop them. These groups would lay claims to territories and fight amongst one another, creating factionalism once again.

A global government would never work if it was a democracy - it would be too hard to count up 6 billion votes! Instead of having a global government, countries should help each other out rather than compete, sort of like what the UN is supposed to be like.

**Erik** · February 16, 2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Seneca

What about getting rid of the whole idea of the state rather than envisioning global rule?

No more government, anarcho capatilism.

Peter

They tried that in Somalia.
it doesn't work.

**Denny Crane!** · February 16, 2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Erik

They tried that in Somalia.
it doesn't work.

TCB: A stateless state doesn't neccessarily mean a defenceless state

Erik: They haven't tried it in somalia, what they had there was warlords and islamic courts. To my knowledge no capatilistic free market has ever been tried.

Peter

**MaximiIian** · February 16, 2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by MasterAdnin

I think the concept of a world government is horrible. What do you guys think?

I think a basic, confederal world government would be an important first step into Terran unification.

And on the issue of corruption and logistics: I think that as the future progresses and as technology progresses, logistics will become less and less of a problem as communication and computerization becomes easier and regular, and would help cut down on the potential corruption of a global federal government. Obviously, there would still be some, but all governments have a bit of corruption.

**boofhead** · February 16, 2007, 03:47 PM

Adnan I think it would be a wicked thing. There would be some ideology behind its institution which would leave at least half of the people in the world disatisfied. I plan on leaving a video message in various formats to my descendants, in which apart from saying "g'day" etc and telling them about my life, I will also be warning them about what I believe, as a 21st century man, they should fight for or fight against (it is up to them of course).

One of the main things they should avoid is the sickness of one world government, of any type (religious, socio-political or whatever).

I believe the first push for this evil idea will be by multi-national corporations who want monopolies over the planet. I cannot imagine anything worse.