New European helmets ????

**funky_kiwi** · February 15, 2007, 05:09 PM

Hi, does any one knows about a mod of MTW2 which includes european knights looking like this, or this, u know, with this kind of conic helmet with a nose protection, like in kingdom of heaven, or in kevin costner's robin hood ?
Besaude I think that the fact that there is none of them in MTW2 (execpt some weird ones for poland and russia) is the game's main drawback (apart from that it is excellent)

**TWoxy** · February 15, 2007, 05:16 PM

The lack of a helmet design is the game's main drawback? I assure you, there are worse things in the game than a lack of historically accurate headgear. But if you're that bothered why not mod it? And if you're not a skinner I'm sure you could find one.

**Kinjo** · February 15, 2007, 05:21 PM

Yeah I was a bit suprised that there is not a single Norman helmet in the entire game. You would think maybe the Norman knights would have norman helmets at least for the base armor level and the others as armor upgrades. Armored sergeants and mailed knights are other units that should have norman helmets imo.

**Elric von Rabenfels** · February 15, 2007, 05:27 PM

Well, I am a skinner... I could try do some good helmet´s for you, but better wait for the model exporter comes out. Even Burrek didn´t managed to make real good looking custom helmets, and if burrek can´t do it nobody can

(Excuse here to burrek, the Helmets for the Dismounted Mailed Knights are good but look more like fur caps. I know your problem, and you did it better than I could)
If you still want me to try, pm me.

**Mega Dux Bob** · February 15, 2007, 05:30 PM

Don't the merc spearmen use conical helms? Use that mesh with a new skin.

**Elric von Rabenfels** · February 15, 2007, 05:35 PM

Good idea, I will check this out. But only if someone asks me to do them, I have some mod work to do.

**Trajan** · February 15, 2007, 06:47 PM

Moved to the Mod Threads.

**randir14** · February 15, 2007, 06:52 PM

If you download the mod that changes the look of captains they wear those helmets, maybe you can move their helmet onto other units.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8877/untitledmr6.jpg

**Candelarius** · February 15, 2007, 09:13 PM

@randir14
That's just the "Early Captain" model. You can't transfer helmets between units without making a new model.

@funky_kiwi
I agree, I have been thinking along these lines, too. Not a single nose-guard helmet for the western Europeans (the Russians have a couple units, though). It doesn't ruin the game for me by any stretch at all, but, it does jar with my mental notion of what a medieval man-at-arms looked like. Burrek had a great texture for his sergeant swordsmen, but, removed it due to people's complaints about it! You can see his textures here and here. I've already been bugging him about removing them, so, if the rest of you get on the nose-guard bandwagon, maybe we can change his mind...

**funky_kiwi** · February 16, 2007, 08:53 AM

@Sabre : I'm not saying it is ruining the game, but I was expecting this kind of helmets a lot because I was watching movies like Kinkdom of Heaven.

@Candelarius : Can u explain me how 2 change helmets without changing the rest of the model, so I could give the early captain's head 2 hearly knights with lances ?

@raven darkwing : If u could manadge 2 make norman helmeted knights, u'll be a great modder

, by the way, do u know if it is necessary 2 have photoshop 2 edit skins ?

Last question : is it possible 2 work on mesh files without any graphism knowledge ?

**Elric von Rabenfels** · February 16, 2007, 09:15 AM

Norman helmets for knigths sadly won´t work. We can´t alter the models, and you can´t reskin such a bulky helmet to good norman one. It would still have the model from the bulky one. Someone is trying to crack the models though.

But I could try to reskin the Helmets of the most upgradet Armored seargents, or the normal spear mercenaries. You can open and edit the mesh files without knowledge, yes, but the more knowledge you have, the better it will look afterwards.

And yes, you need photoshop 2, the plugin from nvidia that you need to open and edit the .dds files is only for photoshop 2.

EDIT: I didn´t meant the Medieval II mesh files, I meant the overall possibilty to work on mesh files without knowledge