TTW 4.0 Feedback

[zahid]

is this mod worth buying rtw for? I do not think M2TW is that good, but RTW does not have the awesome charges, has this been worked on?

[-Aquila-]

How come, on the campaign map does it take for ever to move the camera!

[Zhuge_Liang]

Am I missing a post in this thread? I can't access page 2.

EDIT - nvm, i can see it now that i have posted on it.

is this mod worth buying rtw for? I do not think M2TW is that good, but RTW does not have the awesome charges, has this been worked on?

I'd say that RTW is a lot better value for money than M2TW which sucks. If you buy RTW in some compilation pack you can get RTW and BI (and manybe Alexander, but that sucks too) and once you buy them you can have about 10 other games in the form of mods, for free.

With regards to the charges the only thing we changed was charge distances for certain units.

[Nicodemus]

A question : Doria is set up as a barbarian, but yet doesn't seem to gain barbarian ancillaries, rather it receives 'civilised' ones, ie decorated hero, not famous warrior. Is this deliberate ? Is the trait barbarian, but the culture not barbarian ?

[Nicodemus]

A question : Doria is set up as a barbarian, but yet doesn't seem to gain barbarian ancillaries, rather it receives 'civilised' ones, ie decorated hero, not famous warrior. Is this deliberate ? Is the trait barbarian, but the culture not barbarian ?

I think I understand: the 'culture' in a city is RTW:BI's "religion", rather than the underlying "culture" of the faction. However, ancillaries are associated with the underlying faction "culture", so I would guess that somewhere a faction's culture is defined and for Doria ( & Thrace ) this isn't "Barbarian", hence they end up with non-barbarian ancillaries. :hmmm:

[Zhuge_Liang]

I think I understand: the 'culture' in a city is RTW:BI's "religion", rather than the underlying "culture" of the faction. However, ancillaries are associated with the underlying faction "culture", so I would guess that somewhere a faction's culture is defined and for Doria ( & Thrace ) this isn't "Barbarian", hence they end up with non-barbarian ancillaries. :hmmm:

Bingo

The barbarian ancillaries would probably be as realistic as the greek ones. Not much difference.

[Nicodemus]

S0, two questions:

1) How do I return assasins to the game ? They appear to be in the obvious file already, but still not available, even when I change the buildings file as well.

2) How do I make my diplomats talk to capital cities ?

[thoscme]

i've seen "trojan" pictures, uhm, like priamos and paris on characters from other factions, like ithaca, argos and mycenae..

is this something to change??

[Zhuge_Liang]

This can not be changed. If the pictures are to be included at all then they will be in a pool of pictures available to all factions.

[thoscme]

ooh..
okay
just thought it was quite odd to see Paris lead an Ithacan army..

[Nicodemus]

There seem to be some posts missing:hmmm:

[Nicodemus]

Anybody succeeded as the Amazons ?

[Totalis]

Greetings,

I heard about your mod from a friend and I installed it. It's very nice, some bugs here and there that have already been addressed ( such as culture), but I thought it was amazing that there was only about 6 or 7 notable ones. In any case...

I have one thing to add for feedback, and one question.

Feedback: I believe this was addressed slightly by bobby, but the generals bodyguard of Pthians go berserk as soon as I get into battle and when that happens, they aren't just unable to control(as it should be), but they completely stop fighting and they stand perfectly still as enemies hack them down. I don't know if the zip file bobby made fixed it or not which leads to my question...

How do I make use of the .zip files? I use WinRAR and I don't know what command I use to move the patches to where they are supposed to be, and even if I did, I don't know where to extract them to? I can't find any Troy: Total War folder in the copy I made of the original Rome: Total War folder for this mod.

Someone please Help!

[Zhuge_Liang]

Go to your bi/data folder and find the file export_descr_units in this file find the extires for the phthian bodyguards and the myrmidons and remove the berserk ability. This will fix the bug.

[Totalis]

Thank you very much Zhuge Liang, and overall, thanks to you and your team for putting together this great mod : )

I still would like to add on the mini mods bobby and Nicodemus though but I don't know how...

Once again, thank you

[Nicodemus]

Also noticed the importance of doctors...without them children appear slowly, but as soon as a character gains a docter : bingo ! out pops a child...

[Totalis]

lol, I guess people don't really go for Amazons. I know I didn't...when I first got the game My 3 main options (as I suspect the majority of TTW players went for), was Ithaca, (because I read the Odyssey), Sparta (because I watched 300), and Phthia(the myrmidons, because I watched Troy)

But..whats this doctor thing? Is it a trait that makes the character reproduce? I never noticed it..

And I also like the Gods' idea as ancillaries....this mod has a lot of amazing potential, but mods don't allow for all of it to be taken advantage of

[Nicodemus]

I didn't realise about doctors either, but playing with a "small family" as the Amazons, they really didn't move quickly in the family expansion way, not even any adopted generals.

Once I looked about I bit I discovered that doctors improve this, so built an academy, doctor arrived, baby arrived ! Quite remarkable.

I suspect that the Amazons should probably have a bigger family to start with then it wouldn't be so obvious. Also, allowing them to gain a wise woman ( naturally ) and a herbalist with similar child-improving abilities seemed to help.

Same for ancillaries that help with conversion. Once you start capturing cities outside of your own culture, you need help to convert the population.

Easterners do OK, but Greeks don't have much to help them at the moment. All the barbarians have is a pet lion

[Nicodemus]

Strange, I haven't played either Ithaca, Sparta or Phthia ! First I went for was Troy, then Argos, then Lycia ( really quite hard, even with their amazing archers : everyone attacks them ) and now the Amazons ( also hard, because they are Barbarian, stuck in with the Easterners ).

Looking forward to trying Minoa as well.

[littleman]

Tried your fix from berserker to disiplined in export_descr_units ctd every time. Also downloaded the patch,and the seafaring fix for argos javilin in export_desr_units causes it to ctd every time. Did a clean install patched 1.2, 1.3,1.5,installed barbarian invasion,patch 1.6, installed trot 4.0. Game runs perfect. All the patches work except the fixes to export_descr_units.txt ctds every time. Removed the fixes to export_descr_units.txt and game runs fine