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    here i got some news from BBC !

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has attacked the United States for what he said was its "almost uncontained" use of force around the world.

    America's "very dangerous" approach to global relations was fuelling a nuclear arms race, he told a security summit.
    Correspondents say the strident speech may signal a more assertive Russia.
    Earlier German chancellor Angela Merkel told the delegates in Munich that the international community was determined to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons.
    Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani is among delegates at the conference.
    The conference, founded in 1962, has become an annual opportunity for world leaders to discuss the most pressing issues of the day.
    What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency...


    Angela Merkel



    Q&A: Sanctions on Iran

    Mr Putin told senior security officials from around the world that nations were "witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations".
    "One state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way," the Russian president said.
    "This is very dangerous. Nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," he said, speaking through a translator.
    "This is nourishing an arms race with the desire of countries to get nuclear weapons."
    'Power, not weapons'
    BBC defence and security correspondent Rob Watson, in Munich, said Mr Putin's speech was a strident performance.
    Iran says it wants nuclear power, not nuclear weapons

    It may well be remembered as a turning point in international relations and a sign of a more assertive Russia, our correspondent says.
    Western leaders in the audience, including Mrs Merkel, looked decidedly glum-faced when President Putin had finished, our correspondent adds.
    Earlier, Mrs Merkel told delegates there was "no way around" the need for Tehran to accept demands from the UN and nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
    "What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency, which Iran has failed to provide, and if Iran does not do so then the alternative for Iran is to slip further into isolation," she said.
    Mr Larijani was set to tell delegates that Iran wants nuclear power, not nuclear weapons.
    "We believe the Iranian nuclear dossier is resolvable by negotiation," Mr Larijani was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying on the sidelines of the conference.
    European diplomats are hoping to hold informal talks with Mr Larijani at the two-day summit.
    It would be their first meeting since the collapse of talks last year and the imposition of limited UN sanctions on Tehran for its failure to stop the enrichment of uranium.
    Projects halted
    On Friday, the IAEA said it had frozen about half of technical aid projects involving Iran.
    It said the move was to comply with UN sanctions imposed on Tehran late last year over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment.
    An IAEA report said 22 technical aid projects involving Iran had been suspended to comply with the UN sanctions, which call for an end to programmes that could be exploited by Iran to develop nuclear weapons. The IAEA gives technical aid to dozens of countries on the peaceful use of nuclear energy in fields such as medicine, agriculture and power generation.

    and by the way no offence but VLADIMIR PUTIN is a PIG

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    Wow ! At least he is sincere now.

    The old slogan - America the evile empire in action once more !


    Personally I am not suprised.

    BTW Love the phrase that the Sopviet Union was the example of peaceful transformation he has used, another good joke Mr.Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegorach View Post
    Wow ! At least he is sincere now.

    The old slogan - America the evile empire in action once more !


    Personally I am not suprised.

    BTW Love the phrase that the Sopviet Union was the example of peaceful transformation he has used, another good joke Mr.Putin.
    Actually it was Reagan who used the slogan "evil empire" to designate soviet union
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckard View Post
    Actually it was Reagan who used the slogan "evil empire" to designate soviet union
    And was not the SU evil empire ?

    I am sure it was the place of endless joy where people lived in harmony with nature and benevolent rulers smiled upon their happy subjects.:hmmm:

    Surely KGB, massive pollution, shortages in all product cathegories (except the tanks and AK-47s) , no worker rights and slavery were inventions of biased imperialist propaganda.

    Surely such an angel like Mr.Putin has all the rights to say so - but do not mention xenophobia, Chechenya, rule of law and freedom of speech here. He doesn't like such subjects, I really do not know why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegorach View Post
    And was not the SU evil empire ?

    I am sure it was the place of endless joy where people lived in harmony with nature and benevolent rulers smiled upon their happy subjects.:hmmm:

    Surely KGB, massive pollution, shortages in all product cathegories (except the tanks and AK-47s) , no worker rights and slavery were inventions of biased imperialist propaganda.

    Surely such an angel like Mr.Putin has all the rights to say so - but do not mention xenophobia, Chechenya, rule of law and freedom of speech here. He doesn't like such subjects, I really do not know why.
    May i ask you when i say such thing?
    I just find it funny that you use this term

    And please , spare us your critics of soviet union , we all know how bad this system was so stop your comparison just for the sake of an another russian bashing thread , i think we begin to know how much you are intolerant toward russian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckard View Post
    May i ask you when i say such thing?
    I just find it funny that you use this term

    And please , spare us your critics of soviet union , we all know how bad this system was
    Oh not all of you. There are people in this forum who don't - several of them.

    Sometimes you have to say what should be said especially when it is fully justified.

    But when it looks like joke why not criticise it for a change ?

    I am pretty fed up with blind anti-Americanism and people exploiting it to collect cheap applause and support.
    It makes me seen as pro-American which is not true.


    And my supposed Russian intolerance... Please if it was the topic about France or Germany or *put a name of the country here* I would soon be blamed for hating averyone - it is enough I was called anti-Polish some time ago.
    Ehh the enjoyements of centrist-liberal point of view.

    I must admit, though there are more Russian related topics often started by people who are clearly biased and not everyone enjoys bashing them so much as I do.
    So indeed I like to combine duty with pleasure.
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    Yes, now that Putin has criticized American foreign policy he is a tyrant along the lines of Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan.
    If anything, he's four years behind the curve. Most of Europe criticized America about this 4 years ago (remember Freedom Fries?).





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    Why is Putin a pig? Because he criticized the US? Personally, I like it that he is actually saying it, not keeping it inside of him...I mean why can the US criticize everyone, but Russia can't? This is the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerxguy View Post
    Why is Putin a pig? Because he criticized the US? Personally, I like it that he is actually saying it, not keeping it inside of him...I mean why can the US criticize everyone, but Russia can't? This is the world.
    Well, I don't think Illyrius was trying to say that he's a pig because he criticized US but because he was born a pig. I agree with him.

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    Despite the rigorous Public Relations campaign, this shouldn't come as any surprise. The peace between the US and Russia has always been a Public Relations facade beneficial to the Elites on both sides. Some dynamics have changed that it seems..
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    i think we begin to know how much you are intolerant toward russian.
    Took you long enough.





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    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    Countries do not feel secure for a number of reasons trying to pin most of the blame on the US is just a smoke screen. Are we partially to blame yes, but America is not the 10,000 pound gorilla that every makes us out to be. Next thing you know people will blame Europe's immigration problems on us.
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    we all know how bad this system was
    please tell that to all the socialist on board. They still haven't gotten the memo.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illyrius View Post
    here i got some news from BBC !

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has attacked the United States for what he said was its "almost uncontained" use of force around the world.
    what a hypocrite, and its not like he wouldnt be doing the same if he didnt have the power of the US - he'd probably be far more forceful, he's transparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    what a hypocrite, and its not like he wouldnt be doing the same if he didnt have the power of the US - he'd probably be far more forceful, he's transparent.
    Taking someone down to another's level doesn't make the other go up. He's still low.

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    White trash are always amusing.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    what a hypocrite, and its not like he wouldnt be doing the same if he didnt have the power of the US - he'd probably be far more forceful, he's transparent.
    but he hasn't and he doesn't so he has a valid point.
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    protecting a criminal and a wannabe imperialist dictator, yet dissing a democratically elected Bush and co... i get it.

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    I only have to say one thing about this.I dont care who's right and who's wrong,although in this case I think Putin has a good point.The funny thing for me is that everytime someone challenges or criticizes the US:he is an evil dictator and the US is the bringer of light and hope

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    Some dynamics have changed that it seems..
    Couldn't agree more, the Russians definitely seem to be pretty pissed about the US debating over Georgia's entry into NATO. I just saw an article on it a few days ago and the timing of this "proclamation" is somewhat suspicious.

    The funny thing for me is that everytime someone challenges or criticizes the US:he is an evil dictator and the US is the bringer of light and hope
    You have been keeping up with all the reports of assassinations linked to Russia right? That journalist, the former KGB agent who was poisoned, etc.

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