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    Default Advice on elephants

    So these African creatures who I loved so dearly have dropped several spots on my favorite animal list.

    Any advice on battling these behemoths?

    I'm campaigning as England and was wondering what the best art/unit is to battle these s.o.b's

    btw does this forum have a search function? I'm sure this has been posted before. If it doesn't it needs one.
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    The best gunpowder units you can bring to bare. Trick is to scare them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacc View Post
    btw does this forum have a search function? I'm sure this has been posted before. If it doesn't it needs one.
    Main navigation bar > Search > "click it" > presto!
    Last edited by thorbeck; February 08, 2007 at 12:10 PM.

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    and by scare you suggest flamming ammo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacc View Post
    and by scare you suggest flamming ammo?
    Flaming arrows work quite well to frighten these poor mammals. I wouldn't recommend flaming artillery as it tends to miss often, stick to the norml solid shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacc View Post
    and by scare you suggest flamming ammo?
    Well gunpowder units cause fright anyway. Artillery is probably better used on massed infantry, and should only be used to deal with elephants if you have no gunpowder infantry.

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    ribaults are the best unit against them

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    So what about the RTW system where some javelin infantry were effective against elephants?

    Is this system still alive? Will using Almughavars or Kurdish Javelinmen kill elephants in melee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan View Post
    So what about the RTW system where some javelin infantry were effective against elephants?

    Is this system still alive? Will using Almughavars or Kurdish Javelinmen kill elephants in melee?
    Every foot javelinman, with the exception of Turkish Javelinmen, still has a considerable bonus against elephants both in melee and in ranged combat. Mounted ones however have agot a malus.
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    Ok found the search function and the following strategies seem to be the most highly touted.

    1. Catapults and gunpowder artillery
    2. Flaming archers
    3. Using peasants/cheap infantry as a decoys

    idk gonna have to try when I get home from work.
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    I remember in rtw archers and javelins made them go nuts why wouldn't that work with England I mean plant your archers in a sq or something with stakes out and no openings would make it good I think im not sure ive yet to face these devils


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    Use cannons if you can (especially serpentine, basilisk). One shot from siege weapons can kill them instantly. Other than that, use flaming ammo or gunpowder units.

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    Moved to Battle Planning.

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    I think the best way to deal with them is putting up a line of the best english Longbowmen with stakes and fire arrows. This should do the trick.

    Talking about elephants (sorry for OT):

    I think I read in some post that you can hire Elephant-Mercenaries. In my game with sicily I roamed through Africa a long time but never saw them for hire.

    Do you have to wait till the timurids show up, before they're available? Where to look for them?
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    Balistas take down these thing in one shot.
    Arquebusier or Musketeers can scare them.
    If you are playing England, direct your archers to shoot it with flamming arrows.

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    I heard from a co-worker that elephant mercenaries were available in Baghdad, I'm playing as the Egyptians, it's the start of the game (turn 30 or so) and I don't see any for hire. Does anyone have insight into this?

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    They are available there, and Mosul too, I think. However, I think you will have to wait until a certain point in the game. Likely, when gunpowder is available.

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    definetly ribault! with artillery cannons or catapults you must be lucky to hit them at the begining and it only kills one at the time maybe 2 if close to the trebuchet or catapult shot. if your artillery doesn't kill them pronto you will wait for a long long battle of endurance cause those elephant gunners are really good. what i do is use 2 or 3 ribault units. ideally it would be one for each elephant unit so the battle would be over quickly but it works otherwise also. they just can't miss and you have always at least 2 elephants killed from the first shot. after that is like watching the elephants skating through their own friendly units. that is what i use massive cavalry max 4 units of good infantry and ribault with artillery massed against other enemy units. gotta try monster ribault.
    Last edited by toshiro; February 08, 2007 at 12:21 PM.

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    I believe stakes should stop them, kill them with gunpowder artillery. The best thing is to use mercenary rocket launchers. England isn't the best faction versus elephants, factions with Naffatun can easily kill elephants. It takes about 2 hits with napta bombs to kill the elephants, they also cause panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacc View Post
    So these African creatures who I loved so dearly have dropped several spots on my favorite animal list.

    Any advice on battling these behemoths?

    I'm campaigning as England and was wondering what the best art/unit is to battle these s.o.b's

    btw does this forum have a search function? I'm sure this has been posted before. If it doesn't it needs one.
    nuke em...

    lol ... fire arrows, gunpowder shiz. that does it

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