Enabling War Wagons and Wagon Walls

[KnightErrant]

It converts forward but it defaults to the human skeleton.



On back conversion you get the human bone strings in the .mesh file.
(The original .mesh file doesn't have ANY bone strings.)
This could be fixed if anyone wants to mod this or the wagonwall.

[timsmurf]

Hi.

I've been thinking... historically wagon-forts were used purely static. Although, I see how many of you would often refer to the classic western-movies how these circles of wagons were formed, but nevertheless I would imagine that the deployment of such engines in medieval era would be prebattle, not pushed then assembled on the battlefield as we play it...

So, I was thinking... does anybody knows the "secrets" of how the game-files handles the stakes (used by english longbowmen)? Since these are static, yet acts as obstacles (at least against cavalry), I would imagine in reality deploying real wagon-forts would be similar to how / when the stakes were deployed...

Puh! Now I wish this game was far more flexible to modify...

[Ichon]

Hi.

I've been thinking... historically wagon-forts were used purely static. Although, I see how many of you would often refer to the classic western-movies how these circles of wagons were formed, but nevertheless I would imagine that the deployment of such engines in medieval era would be prebattle, not pushed then assembled on the battlefield as we play it...

So, I was thinking... does anybody knows the "secrets" of how the game-files handles the stakes (used by english longbowmen)? Since these are static, yet acts as obstacles (at least against cavalry), I would imagine in reality deploying real wagon-forts would be similar to how / when the stakes were deployed...

Puh! Now I wish this game was far more flexible to modify...

I was thinking same thing... but it seems there is no more info anywhere I can find about this. Too bad, what is actually implemented is hard to tell but those pictures look pretty cool and like something more could be done with this.

[SigniferOne]

I want to see exactly how this plays into gameplay, and how the units react differently. Do they try to shoot through the windows, or what? What does wagon_wall do?

[KnightErrant]

Don't know that. Wagonwalls convert the same way and again
default to human skeletons because the name isn't recognized.



The DukeOfSerbia said they were pushed by units and then abandoned
sometimes in battle. Don't know how to fix that but for the human player
you could "circle the wagons" a la any Western film you care to name and it
would be an interesting tactic, a transportable wooden fort for units on
the move in open country.

[SigniferOne]

If units must push the objects linearly, how does it ever become a circle? When I find time, I really have to take a look at this curious new ability.

[KingCrab]

If anyone is still working on this project, keep it up. It will be a great addition to the game, a new way of playing. I, myself, am worthless at this kind of modding, so all I can do, is to add a postive cheering here and there. So keep it up!

[EarendilElenthol]

Perhaps you could use the circle from spearmen to get this something like circled?

[Banzai!]

I am thinking, that you can add war wagons in as a chariot/elephant unit. Then you could have crossbowmen inside the wagon as well.

[Banzai!]

[mongrel]

Alternatively could one build a fort out of these, which can be built by eastern generals?

[Banzai!]

[konny]

amazing

[jjrr]

OMG! Banzai!, this is absolutely awesome! Can you please teach us how to do this? Please?

[Methoz]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! Thats great!!

[Banzai!]

Hmmm pushed wagon walls would be useful in a siege assault and to simulate pavises.

[Ishiro]

So no progress on this whatsoever? Right?

[Gigantus]

They are being used in the 1648 - Der dreissigjährige Krieg mod, check there.

[Ishiro]

So they are exclusively for that mod only?

[Gigantus]

If you want to use them, ask the mod leader (monguntiacum) for permission.