View Poll Results: Do the Actions of Israel in Gaza Constitute Genocide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    Israel owes its existence to international pressure..? Lol, what?
    Of course! If not for "international pressure", the Jihadist Entity, with full support from the ummah, would have, in line with the actions of the Muhammad on the Banu Qurayza, achieved the desired result and killed all the adult male Jews and enslaved the women and children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    Of course! If not for "international pressure", the Jihadist Entity, with full support from the ummah, would have, in line with the actions of the Muhammad on the Banu Qurayza, achieved the desired result and killed all the adult male Jews and enslaved the women and children.
    Oh you mean what Israel does to the Palestinian people? I doubt that Jihadists are so morally deprived

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    Barbara Reis published an article today in the newspaper Público, titled "Most Incredible Argument Award 2024," from which I reproduce these excerpts:

    "After reflecting on the year's balance, I am awarding Israel this humble trophy: Most Incredible Argument Award 2024.
    For years, I have heard the arguments Israel uses to contest condemnations in the Security Council and the UN General Assembly, and in the International Criminal Court (which judges individuals), and the International Court of Justice (which judges states).
    What I was not expecting, however, was the argument Israel used to try to convince Ireland not to recognize the state of Palestine.

    What was Israel’s argument to dissuade Ireland from taking this step?

    ‘Ireland is not neutral, nor is it an honest broker, because it is very favorable to the Palestinians. But what we are saying is that this is not the right moment for an announcement of recognition. We are receiving phone calls and having conversations with concerned people. There are Israelis who have invested in Ireland and are concerned about their investments, and Israelis who have moved to Ireland and are working in various tech companies, asking to move elsewhere or return to Israel. I think this sends the wrong message about Ireland’s location and centrality as a tech hub. When more and more people are concerned about the idea of moving to Ireland, it doesn't seem to me that this is the message Ireland wants to send to the world.’

    A country that argues with the potential exodus of big tech companies to defend itself against accusations of genocide and violations of international law deserves this humble trophy. The argument is ‘incredible’ in the sense of astonishing, unheard of, unbelievable. It is all of that and much more."
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    Netanyahu rejected again any hostage deal despite the fact that Hamas has made serious concessions including letting Israel have a troop presence inside Gaza. It seems Netanyahu is not pleased with the fact that some Palestinian life continues to exist in North Gaza and wants to exterminate anyone who lives there. Today they gave an order to evacuate Kamal Adwan hospital which is easier said than done considering that hundreds of wounded live there and that anyone who leaves the hospital risks of being killed by IDF

  5. #105

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    Ireland is not neutral indeed


    proclaiming the palestinian state after the worst massacre of jews since 1945? in full war againt hamas?


    was it really the right time? no not really just opportunism and anti-semitism



    I have more respect for Gambia, this small African state than anti-Semitic opportunist Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flo463 View Post
    Ireland is not neutral indeed
    proclaiming the palestinian state after the worst massacre of jews since 1945? in full war againt hamas?
    was it really the right time? no not really just opportunism and anti-semitism
    I have more respect for Gambia, this small African state than anti-Semitic opportunist Ireland.
    Ireland recognized Palestine on May 28, 2024, (about 8 months after October 7, 2023) after months of Israeli brutality in Gaza killing tens of thousands of people. If recognition of Palestinians (who are themselves Semitic) is an anti-Semitic act then it is a badge of honour to be carried.
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    "Bearing Witness to the Israel-Gaza War" is a massive database of evidence, the most exhaustive report someone has written since October 7th in Israel, referencing thousands of sources of information. In its latest English version, it spans 124 pages and includes 1,401 footnotes. It is a work written and compiled by the Israeli Lee Mordecai, a historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who holds a PhD from Princeton.
    He wrote at the beginning, "I did not receive any payment to write this document, and I did it out of commitment to human rights, my profession, and my country."

    He has seen thousands of horrific images. He does not display them in the text but provides the links. The text is factual, clear, concise, with few adjectives. He considers Israel’s response to the atrocities of Hamas as genocide, and in the end, he explains why.

    Mordecai argues that the dehumanization of Palestinians is what allows this horror to continue. Are there written instructions for this ethnic cleansing? For the genocide? As far as is known, no. This suits the leadership, as it safeguards against future trials, as Mordecai points out. This horror would not be possible without U.S. bombs and millions of dollars, and the complicity of Scholz, Ursula, and most of the EU (with three or four countries making a difference)

    On January 27, 2025, Netanyahu will not attend the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz because he fears arrest for crimes against humanity. Recently, in Haaretz, Gideon Levy summarized the mind-boggling symbolism of this in an article titled "From Auschwitz to Gaza, With a Stopover in The Hague."

    Bearing Witness to the Israel-Gaza War
    Lee Mordechai, Historian and Israeli citizen. December 5, 2024 (version 6.5.5). Read the full document above.
    From Auschwitz to Gaza, With a Stopover in The Hague
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    In honor of Jimmy Carter, who passed away on Sunday, December 29. From Panama to Palestine, Jimmy Carter refused to let his moral voice be silenced

    We cannot be peacemakers if American government leaders are seen as knee-jerk supporters of every action or policy of whatever Israeli government happens to be in power at the moment. That is the essential fact that must be faced”. Jimmy Carter.
    Last edited by Ludicus; January 02, 2025 at 03:33 AM.
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