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    Default koinon hellenon negative traits

    Hi, 2/3 of my characters seem to get a negative trait line "lolopoios" which negatively affects puplic order.The highest trait of the line gives +3 unrest.there are a few others but this by far the most common.I have my theory that it happens when your fm stays in a settlement while he is less than 30 years old(still neos) but I am not 100% sure.If that is the case how are you supposed to educate them?
    I have got a bunch of FMs in their teens and most of them got this trait which makes them almost useless as governors

    does anyone actually know how to avoid these traits????

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    Default Re: koinon hellenon negative traits

    Quote Originally Posted by gotsili View Post
    Hi, 2/3 of my characters seem to get a negative trait line "lolopoios" which negatively affects puplic order.The highest trait of the line gives +3 unrest.there are a few others but this by far the most common.I have my theory that it happens when your fm stays in a settlement while he is less than 30 years old(still neos) but I am not 100% sure.If that is the case how are you supposed to educate them?
    I have got a bunch of FMs in their teens and most of them got this trait which makes them almost useless as governors

    does anyone actually know how to avoid these traits????
    Lolopoios, Authades and other negative traits are assosiated with the BASE trait of being SELFISH...If you don't want these negative traits choose UNSELFISH base trait characters and maybe when a character comes of age come a save fail to load a few times before the turn comes...

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    Default Re: koinon hellenon negative traits

    Quote Originally Posted by gotsili View Post
    Hi, 2/3 of my characters seem to get a negative trait line "lolopoios" which negatively affects puplic order.The highest trait of the line gives +3 unrest.there are a few others but this by far the most common.I have my theory that it happens when your fm stays in a settlement while he is less than 30 years old(still neos) but I am not 100% sure.If that is the case how are you supposed to educate them?
    I have got a bunch of FMs in their teens and most of them got this trait which makes them almost useless as governors

    does anyone actually know how to avoid these traits????
    More specifically for Lolopoios, from export_descr_character_traits.txt we can see


    Condition Trait Hellenic = 1 //If the character belongs to one of the Hellenic factions
    and Trait NaturalEnergy > 3 //It says Energetic in the base traits(When it says Energetic it means it can be 3,4 or 5 so it can say energetic and Selfish and not get Lolopoios)
    and Trait Selflessness < 3 //It says Selfish in the base traits
    Affects Lolopoios 1 Chance 2 //2% chance each turn to get it, so sooner or later selfish characters will get it
    The base traits are the Sharp/Dull Charismatic/Uncharismatic Energetic/Languorous Unselfish/Selfish Optimistic/Pessimistic
    So in summary Lolopoios is something you get with Energetic AND Selfish characters...

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    So a bunch of my new generation of characters came of age being vigorous and selfish,thats just bad luck.Guess they will spend their life in the army fighting rebels in the north

    Thanks for the reply

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    Default Re: koinon hellenon negative traits

    Quote Originally Posted by gotsili View Post
    So a bunch of my new generation of characters came of age being vigorous and selfish,thats just bad luck.Guess they will spend their life in the army fighting rebels in the north

    Thanks for the reply
    Yeah, use these guys as generals and maybe transfer them ancillaries of - unrest to balance them out for governance...

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