Peasants v. knights

**Strategos83** · February 03, 2007, 01:29 PM

I found that French Peasants, climbing up a city wall on ladders, were able to kill 20 of my Dismounted Norman Knights before the Peasants were finally defeated. For some reason my Knights had a "defeat is certain" thing going for a while, right at the start of the fight. I had them 3 deep, standing right where the ladders were placed, and placed on guard mode so that they wouldn't chase the peasants down the ladders and get marooned outside the walls. My Knights seemed to fight a little better after I had them attack the peasants, but still, the peasants coming one by one I had expected like max 5 casulaties, not one third of the entire unit!!! Some starving bum with no armour and a stick jumps off a ladder into the midst of 60 bloodthirsty norman guys with full armour and swords?? no chance you'd think..
So do French Peasants have better stats than the Peasants of other countries or what..?:hmmm:

**Sher Khan** · February 03, 2007, 03:48 PM

Try that situation again with guard mode turned off. I think it negatively affects your soldier's fighting ability, especially melee fighting.

**shinji86** · February 03, 2007, 03:53 PM

all units withouut a shield have advantage!! because of a bug in this game shield has negativ effects on melee !! there is some threads about that

**sgt.kzi33** · February 03, 2007, 03:57 PM

Yes but there are lots of mods that fix this problem useing a workaround by useing a shield fix....i'll look for a link to give you..

**parvus** · February 03, 2007, 11:07 PM

yeah the shield glitch thingy is rly annoying

**Elric von Rabenfels** · February 03, 2007, 11:20 PM

Im really happy the most bigger mods fix this...

**sdjenkyn** · February 03, 2007, 11:27 PM

theres no shield fix you have to 0 your shield stat and put those points into armor

**Elric von Rabenfels** · February 03, 2007, 11:32 PM

The most mods rebalance exactly that.

**sgt.kzi33** · February 04, 2007, 09:55 AM

It's still quite unsettleing see peasents fight to the last man and knights running like pulled pork forked by a pot bellied fat guy in the middle of an interstate.

**Strategos83** · February 05, 2007, 10:28 AM

so for every unit equipped with a shield take those points and add them to "armour" ?

**sdjenkyn** · February 05, 2007, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Strategos83

so for every unit equipped with a shield take those points and add them to "armour" ?

Yes some folks are only using half the shield value and some are putting them into the skill portion. What is happening now is that the shields are acting negatively during melee combat so in essence just zeroing it will give you an armor bonus in melee. example shield value of 5 armor is 10 ,total value during melee 5. remove the shield to 0 total armor 10 during melee. We add some to the other values to compensate for missile attacks. Hope that helps.

**Ippius** · February 06, 2007, 05:09 AM

Well peasants in the vanilla game are pretty good. They thrash all the milita and pretty much are better than seargeant spear men I reckon. Stupid glitch..

**Strategos83** · February 06, 2007, 03:22 PM

Call me a noob, but how do you go about transferring or cancelling the glitch shield points? And does this have to be done for every infantry unit with a shield?:hmmm:

**MosMus** · February 07, 2007, 08:55 AM

You know what faction has the strongest peasants?

I dont use them a lot only when I am desperate. They are better and retreating then fighting, really pathetic unit