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    I think that the US should realize they are ever increasing their chance of having a civil war, and accept that parties come to power and then the other party returns and it's not the end of the world.
    Trump was already looking set to win, but with this moment (and also importantly how he came out of it, with fist in the air etc, ie at least "brave") it looks absolutely certain he will return to power.
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    So apparently it was a real gun after all, one person is dead along with the shooter, and already people are trying to push the Sam Hyde hoax again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Observer View Post
    What a despicable thing to say about another human given this situation!
    Oh but it's not just another human. It's Hitler reborn, the greatest threat to America and the world in a century. Or so the democrats and their lackeys in the media have been saying non-stop since basically 2016. Then, today, all of a sudden, they are shocked this happened and in unison they declare "there is no room for violence in politics"... the same violence they have long invited by demonising the man. It's obvious they would have liked to condemn violence and say all those nice things after Trump had been shot dead. They can barely hide their disappointment they have to say them now that Trump survived.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    Oh but it's not just another human. It's Hitler reborn, the greatest threat to America and the world in a century. Or so the democrats and their lackeys in the media have been saying non-stop since basically 2016. Then, today, all of a sudden, they are shocked this happened and in unison they declare "there is no room for violence in politics"... the same violence they have long invited by demonising the man. It's obvious they would have liked to condemn violence and say all those nice things after Trump had been shot dead. They can barely hide their disappointment they have to say them now that Trump survived.

    Uh-huh. And which party is it that takes it for granted anyone who opposes them on any issue is by default a Communist pedophile? Not to mention that Trump literally has said that people of certain skin tones are "vermin" that "poison the blood of our country" and has been open about planning to put them in concentration camps just like a certain Austrian Corporal.

    Spare us your faux outrage.

    In other news early reports suggest that the shooter was a 20-year old registered Republican. If true I'm leaning towards no real political motive at all, just the desire to be famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Uh-huh. And which party is it that takes it for granted anyone who opposes them on any issue is by default a Communist pedophile? Not to mention that Trump literally has said that people of certain skin tones are "vermin" that "poison the blood of our country" and has been open about planning to put them in concentration camps just like a certain Austrian Corporal.

    Spare us your faux outrage.

    In other news early reports suggest that the shooter was a 20-year old registered Republican. If true I'm leaning towards no real political motive at all, just the desire to be famous.
    I don't think it's about skin tone as much as their having entered the country illegally. And there's no evidence that such camps would be anything more than detention before being kicked out of the country.
    Last edited by Laser101; July 14, 2024 at 07:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Uh-huh. And which party is it that takes it for granted anyone who opposes them on any issue is by default a Communist pedophile? Not to mention that Trump literally has said that people of certain skin tones are "vermin" that "poison the blood of our country" and has been open about planning to put them in concentration camps just like a certain Austrian Corporal.

    Spare us your faux outrage.

    In other news early reports suggest that the shooter was a 20-year old registered Republican. If true I'm leaning towards no real political motive at all, just the desire to be famous.
    And this is what happens when TDS rots your brain. This is not fake outrage I am displaying, this is real outrage. Unlike you and yours I haven't spent the last 8 years calling Trump Hitler only to turn around now. I have always stood somewhere in the middle and I have as such earnt the right to condemn political violence like this. You want to tell someone to spare you the faux outrage, tell that to your cult.

    Whatever I may think about Trump politically and I disagree with him on a great deal of topics, the man was just shot at and responded with defiance, courage and temerity. That, in my book, is admirable. His reaction gave me Teddy Roosevelt vibes and I'm sure any person that isn't completely lost to TDS would think similarly.
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    Shooter identified:

    "Trump rally shooter identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20-year-old Pennsylvania man, FBI says
    By Nicole Sganga, Pat Milton
    Updated on: July 14, 2024 / 7:18 AM EDT / CBS News

    The gunman who fired shots at former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, Saturday night has been identified by the FBI as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks.
    Crooks was from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, about an hour south of Butler.
    He was killed by a Secret Service sniper at the rally, officials said.

    In a statement, the FBI said:
    "The FBI has identified Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, as the subject involved in the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on July 13, in Butler, Pennsylvania."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-r...an-identified/

    Per Reuters: What we know so far about suspected gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks

    "State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time Crooks had been old enough to vote in a presidential race.Crooks lived about an hour away from where the shooting took place in Butler. The Federal Aviation Administration said on Sunday that it closed the airspace over Bethel Park for "special security reasons."
    When Crooks was 17 he made a $15 donation to ActBlue, a political action committee that raises money for left-leaning and Democratic politicians, according to a 2021 Federal Election Commission filing. The donation was earmarked for the Progressive Turnout Project, a national group that rallies Democrats to vote. The groups did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment."
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/her...er-2024-07-14/

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    As details emerge it looks more like a political stunt than an actual assassination attempt. A young untrained attacker manages to get on top of one of the only vantage points, with Secret Service snipers observing his direction, stays on the roof for minutes with bystanders warning the authorities, manages to fire his gun and gets shot dead right away. Trump poses for the cameras triumphantly. End scene.


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    “Ok kid, now remember, here’s the MOST important part: you gotta hit him in the ear, NOT the head, and you CANNOT miss either. You need to look like a complete amateur, but the Teddy Roosevelt narrative we need hinges on your world class marksmanship to wound him for the cameras, or you can forget about the lifetime supply of Mountain Dew….. yes of course, I already mentioned you’ll be released to witness protection as soon as things quiet down. Why would I lie?”

    Netflix original starring Steven Segal. BlueAnon cope is even dumber than their namesake’s.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    “Ok kid, now remember, here’s the MOST important part: you gotta hit him in the ear, NOT the head, and you CANNOT miss either. You need to look like a complete amateur, but the Teddy Roosevelt narrative we need hinges on your world class marksmanship to wound him for the cameras, or you can forget about the lifetime supply of Mountain Dew….. yes of course, I already mentioned you’ll be released to witness protection as soon as things quiet down. Why would I lie?”

    Netflix original starring Steven Segal. BlueAnon cope is even dumber than their namesake’s.
    As if calling any viewpoint that doesn't bend backwards for Trump as "BlueAnon cope" is such a smart move? If it was Biden on the stage back there you'd be trying to come up with a mathematical equation on how likely that ear-piercing shot was when it was most likely just a random part of this photo op.
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    A a mathematical equation on how likely that “random” and also “staged” ear-piercing shot was would be a great first step considering the FBI has concluded this was an assassination attempt.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    A a mathematical equation on how likely that “random” and also “staged” ear-piercing shot was would be a great first step considering the FBI has concluded this was an assassination attempt.
    The same FBI that you have been arguing for so long to conspire against Trump for years? Funny how suddenly their word becomes the undeniable truth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    The same FBI that you have been arguing for so long to conspire against Trump for years? Funny how suddenly their word becomes the undeniable truth...
    So the FBI is lying and covering up the truth to facilitate this political stunt on Trump’s behalf now too? Please tell us more.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    So the FBI is lying and covering up the truth to facilitate this political stunt on Trump’s behalf now too? Please tell us more.
    It's more like you're the one lying since FBI investigation likely haven't been concluded. Do we have the following answers?

    Why did the Secret Service not cover the rooftop, being one of the only vantage points over Trump's stage?
    Why did the security personnel on the ground ignored bystanders' warning that a man with a rifle was crawling on the rooftop?
    Why were the Secret Service snipers did not act before shots were fired meanwhile observing the direction of the location of the attacker?
    Why was Trump kept on stage for over a minute and not taken to cover even though the Secret Service agents were aware of the direction of the shooting?

    The investigation will likely try to answer these questions.
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    They concluded it was an assassination attempt. Feel free to answer those questions yourself since you’re the one saying that’s not true.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    They concluded it was an assassination attempt. Feel free to answer those questions yourself since you’re the one saying that’s not true.


    Meanwhile FBI actually classifies it as an active and ongoing investigation.
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    The shooter had been on social media saying "I hate republicans and I hate Trump". He was just a kid, only a symptom of the serious problem in the US. Life thrown away and all he achieved was to make Trump's victory certain.
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
    "While the lion prevails with its claws, and the ox through its horns, man does by his thinking"
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    Meanwhile FBI actually classifies it as an active and ongoing investigation.
    They are investigating the assassination attempt. No citation needed, but here you go
    The FBI has identified Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, as the subject involved in the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on July 13, in Butler, Pennsylvania.

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-relea...r-pennsylvania
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    Netflix original starring Steven Segal. BlueAnon cope is even dumber than their namesake’s.
    The BlueAnons put on their aluminum-foil nightcaps and cried themselves to sleep last night 'cause it wasn't an inch or two to the left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriakos View Post
    The shooter had been on social media saying "I hate republicans and I hate Trump". He was just a kid, only a symptom of the serious problem in the US. Life thrown away and all he achieved was to make Trump's victory certain.
    It’s too early to speculate on the shooter’s exact motives beyond an obvious hatred of Trump and desire to kill him. His Republican voter registration will be reiterated ad nauseam by the press and liberal establishment, and the right will point to his left wing political donations and statements. It’s a pointless exercise imo, but we can probably conclude Biden would not have had the presence of mind to facilitate this iconic shot:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    If there’s a moment that defines his campaign, this will be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    The BlueAnons put on their aluminum-foil nightcaps and cried themselves to sleep last night 'cause it wasn't an inch or two to the left...
    To be sure, many might wish the would-be assassin had aimed a little lower. But politically, I think this is one of the worst things that could have happened for the Democrats, aside from Biden stepping down/dying in office. Not only are there countless soundbites from left wing politicians using violent rhetoric referring to Trump, but it looks like the shooter was politically motivated. If Biden was struggling to look strong and competent compared to Trump before now, I don’t know how he’s going to manage with the clip of his “defeat Medicare” word salad alongside that of Trump’s defiant and bloodied face reassuring the cheering crowd.
    Last edited by Legio_Italica; July 14, 2024 at 09:22 AM.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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