Originally Posted by
Muizer
I note that in both cases available / required Constitutional procedures (resp. VonC and Ostrakon) weren't followed. Why?
The former Consul misused his local moderation powers, which lies under the responsibility of the Hexagon Council and especially its moderation branch, similarly to every other local moderator, from the modding section to the foreign language discussion. Even if this normal procedure was not followed, a VonC could not practically proceed, as the Consul was likely to sabotage the vote. He did in fact delete
the two threads about the upcoming elections to determine his successor. Anyway, this is not an unprecedented case, as members holding Curator/Consul privileges have been stripped of them by the Hexagon Council,
like in the example of Antwerpen. The Curia is still free to pursue the issue further if it so wishes, by issuing an Ostracon against Gaius Baltar.
Originally Posted by
Gaius Baltar
If you had any evidence of abuse of moderation you would have presented it already.
I'll take this as a permission to disclose what happened.
It all started in a
Prothalamos thread, when two comments made by the same user, who is not a citizen, but still allowed to post in the Prothalamos, were deleted by the Consul for supposedly being off-topic.
I don't know what sense it makes to publish files that were decided to be private and that may be of interest to very few people. Why take the risk. And if I were you, I wouldn't talk about unilateral actions that impact the activity (very past or slightly recent) of other users. If I see a discussion that I have been in as protagonist (in example a censure against me) and I have decided to make it private, I will burn your house down. House of Baltar I mean.
Mate relax and open and close votes/debates. Don't do things for the sake of doing something
The member asked repeatedly the Consul to clarify why the comments were removed, in private and visitor messages:
Hi, have you deleted a message of mine on the prothalamos today or was it some kind of error on the site? (To respond to visitor messages you have to click "view conversation").
Hello? Could you answer me?
It is nothing serious if you decided to delete that post and of course it is nothing special that due to a system failure my message did not appear (although I would swear that the message appeared). What is a problem is that you do not want to answer the very simple question that I asked you here.
The Consul never replied. Instead, he deleted the visitor messages with the reasoning "double post" and asked me to ban the member in question from the Prothalamos:
Originally Posted by
Gaius Baltar
I am requesting a ban of redacted from the Prothalamus. His interactions there can be described as combative and he seems to have an ongoing rant about the usefulness of the Curia and its officers. The best description of his behavior would be "Off Topic".
Citizens who post in the Prothalamus are held to a higher standard of behavior and redacted, who is not a citizen, falls far from those standards.
Thanks for your help,
Gaius Baltar
The request was denied and, when asked to explain his behaviour, Gaius Baltar responded in the following manner:
Originally Posted by
Gaius Baltar
Originally Posted by
Abdülmecid I
Hi Gaius Baltar,
We received a message from redated, complaining about your behaviour as a Curator. He claims that you deleted his messages in the most recent thread in the Prothalamos and repeatedly refused to elaborate, when he asked you for clarification. We checked a bit and we indeed confirmed that two comments from redacted were deleted, as well as several visitor messages on your profile. We did not understand why these two posts were removed, but this lies within your discretion. However, refusing to respond to legitimate requests about your moderation activities is a much more serious issue with grave implications for any forum, not just the Curia, moderated by a local moderator. Can you please explain why you deleted these two messages and, more importantly, whether and, if yes, why you did not reply to redacted's questions?
Best regards,
Abdülmecid
Did you read my previous message on this matter?
I will repeat my request for a forum ban for
redacted from the Prothalamus.
Originally Posted by
Gaius Baltar
Actually, I noticed that the latest version of the Constitution posted by Flinn has actually removed the wording that once allowed non-citizens access to the Prothalamus.
Based on this I request the following;
1. Move the Prothalamus back into the Curia.
2. Remove all non-citizen access to the Prothalamus.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Gaius Baltar - Consul
It was therefore decided that Gaius Baltar had to be removed from the Consulship for misusing his moderator powers by deleting messages he disagreed with, refusing to explain his actions and trying to goad moderation into banning the members he disliked and restraining the Prothalamos to citizens-only.