CTD on loading save

**backisgabbe** · June 03, 2023, 11:55 AM

Finally got to the good part of my Epirot campaign and now I crash when loading the save.

**Shoebopp** · June 03, 2023, 07:05 PM

Did you make any changes to game files after starting your campaign? Like changing building capabilities especially?

**backisgabbe** · June 04, 2023, 07:48 AM

None, I like the vanilla EB2 experience (fully updated).

**Shoebopp** · June 04, 2023, 12:20 PM

Looks like there are EBII scripts that run when the game is reloaded according to https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...1#post14839112 . The monitor is called GameReloaded. EBII has two of them: one that does a bunch of unrelated cleanup work (this one didn't cause any problems, because your logs contain

Code:

18:43:07.867 [game.script] [always] Game Reloaded
18:43:07.867 [game.script] [always] Battle Scripts Reset

However, another monitor for GameReloaded deals with the case where the player accidentally saves without addressing a Yes/No decision scroll.

Code:

; === Reload Safe Yes\No events, by Withnwar ===
    ; If a game gets saved while a Yes\No event is pending then the save will put the script into
    ;	a permanent loop. This monitor reloads the event sequence so that the decision can still be made.


    ;        if I_EventCounter [he_true_event] = 1
    ;            and I_EventCounter [he_true_event]_accepted = 0
    ;            and I_EventCounter [he_true_event]_declined = 0
    ;            campaign_wait 0.1
    ;            historic_event [he_true_event] true
    ;            ; add rest of monitor
    ;        end_if

So, did you save the game without deciding on a Yes/No scroll? Since you're playing as Epeiros, the decision would most likely be the Federalization reform, where if you couldn't fulfill or maintain the Centralization reform conditions before the starting royal line dies out, you get a Yes/No decision to devolve into a confederation of city states.

Otherwise, please enable trace or even error logs and try to trigger the CTD again https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...=1#post7175298

**backisgabbe** · June 05, 2023, 06:55 AM

Thanks for the reply, I was centralised having conquered Sicily and Pella so that shouldn't have been the problem, maybe a smaller scroll. from my understanding I have error logs enabled, I'll redo the config and see if that helps. I'll update in a minute. Also, here is my cfg file after changing it to how your linked post shows, does it look alright?

Code:

to = mods/ebii/logs/eb.system.log.txt 
level = * trace                    ## generates a smaller error log file. Use this setting during normal gameplay
#level = * error                ## Currently disabled. Generates a large error log file. Use this setting when tracking down a CTD

**backisgabbe** · June 05, 2023, 07:10 AM

Update, recreated the CTD with new logs.

**Shoebopp** · June 05, 2023, 09:48 AM

We're getting closer to the issue, but unfortunately it probably has to do with campaign_script.txt, which means that even if the bug was discovered, the fix won't be savegame compatible. Please post your campaign_script.txt, since the last trace lines

Code:

14:07:02.645 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait> at line 83193 in mods/ebii/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
14:07:02.645 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait_monitors> at line 307639 in mods/ebii/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt

indicate that the crash happened while executing the campaign script there.

Also, please change your cfg to

Code:

to = mods/ebii/logs/eb.system.log.txt 
#level = * trace                    ## generates a smaller error log file. Use this setting during normal gameplay
level = * error                ## Currently disabled. Generates a large error log file. Use this setting when tracking down a CTD

so that I can see the error logs, and please redo the CTD

**backisgabbe** · June 05, 2023, 10:15 PM

Done.

**Shoebopp** · June 06, 2023, 10:16 AM

Please also share your campaign_script.txt

**backisgabbe** · June 06, 2023, 11:57 AM

Yes boss!

**Shoebopp** · June 06, 2023, 08:14 PM

Half a second before your game crashed, this log line got spammed multiple times

Code:

14:07:03.457 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.457 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.457 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.457 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.457 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.458 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.458 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:03.458 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga (from: C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War)
14:07:04.041 [system.rpt] [error] Unspecified error. Please compress your error log in a zip format and upload it on the EBII technical help forum.

Please check if C://SteamLibrary/steamapps/Common/Medieval II Total War/mods/ebii/data/ui/cul_4/portraits/portraits/dead/004.tga exists or not.

Going back to the trace logs, these lines

Code:

14:07:02.645 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait> at line 83193 in mods/ebii/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
14:07:02.645 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait_monitors> at line 307639 in mods/ebii/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt

refer to this quirky script that reminds you when you've played too much

Code:

; === Play Time Reminder ===
    monitor_conditions TrueCondition
        wait 3600.0                                  ; time in seconds until first reminder (one hour)
        historic_event HE_reminder_one               ; initial reminder after one hour
        if I_EventCounter HE_reminder_one > 0        ; initial reminder has fired
            set_event_counter repeat_reminder 1      ; setting repeat counter
        end_if
        if I_EventCounter repeat_reminder > 0        ; first repeat, two hours elapsed
            and I_EventCounter repeat_reminder < 2   ; first repeat, two hours elapsed
            wait 3600.0                              ; time in seconds until reminder (one hour)
            historic_event HE_reminder_two           ; repeating reminder
            inc_event_counter repeat_reminder 1
        end_if
        if I_EventCounter repeat_reminder > 1        ; second repeat, three hours elapsed
            and I_EventCounter repeat_reminder < 3   ; second repeat, three hours elapsed
            wait 3600.0                              ; time in seconds until reminder (one hour)
            historic_event HE_reminder_special       ; special reminder
            inc_event_counter repeat_reminder 1
        end_if
        if I_EventCounter repeat_reminder > 2        ; more then three hours elapsed
            wait 3600.0                              ; time in seconds until reminder (one hour)
            historic_event HE_reminder_two           ; repeating reminder
            inc_event_counter repeat_reminder 1      ; optional, for use with additional special reminders
        end_if
    end_monitor

Did you ever encounter a popup scroll after playing multiple hours telling you to touch grass or something similar? I'm serious, this script exists in the game, and the execution of that script started 2 seconds before the crash. To further go down this path, please revert your log level to trace like so

Code:

to = mods/ebii/logs/eb.system.log.txt 
level = * trace                    ## generates a smaller error log file. Use this setting during normal gameplay
#level = * error                ## Currently disabled. Generates a large error log file. Use this setting when tracking down a CTD

And trigger the CTD 3 times, grabbing the log file each time. If

Code:

14:07:02.645 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait> at line 83193 in mods/ebii/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt

is consistently logged a few seconds before the crash, then we'd know what the issue is.

Meanwhile, from now on, please create a new save file each time you save in this format

Epirus001
Epirus002
Epirus003
Epirus004

and so on, so that you can revert to an even earlier save each time. In fact, try loading your Autosave to see if that contains a usable version of your campaign

**backisgabbe** · June 07, 2023, 06:28 AM

C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\Common\Medieval II Total War\mods\ebii\data\ui\cul_4\portraits\portraits\dead\004.tga exists

I have seen that you played tooo long pop up before, but can't say if I saw it when playing on that save. I'll give you the logs when I have the time.

I tend to use a 2 save system, so if something happens I can revert to an earlier save. I've turned off Auto save so no help there!