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    Default When to sally out when being besieged

    According to my experience in playing Rome 2 vanilla, I found out these are the cases when you should sally out ( either you have just a single general unit plus the garrison or a small army inside plus the garrison ) to attack an enemy army that is besieging your city either walled or non-walled:

    - If you don't know when the enemy will start the attack and you see that if you fight the battle outside you stand at least like 50% chance of winning. And you see another enemy army heading to the city to reinforce that army that is besieging you.
    - If you haven't researched the technology that reduces attrition when being besieged yet. And the techonology that increases the numbers of turns that a city can hold
    - If a message saying that the city is about to surrender pops up: It means that in the next turn the city will surrender and become your enemy's possesion. It is better to sally out to fight rather than handing over the city to the enemy without a fight

    Cases when it is better not to sally out:

    - If you have an army that can reach the city in the next turn or in 2 turns at the most
    - In case you have a big numerical disadvantage but you have the technology that reduces attrition and the technology that increases the number of turns a city can hold. Your best option is to wait and fight from inside your city ( Even though not guaranteed )

    What about you? Do you have the same criteria when to sally out and when not?
    Last edited by twgamer20197; April 14, 2023 at 09:52 AM.

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    Default Re: When to sally out when being besieged

    Usually I wait to sally out until the message saying that the city is about to surrender pops up. However, your ideas of doing this if you have at least a 50% chance of winning and when another enemy army is approaching, or if you haven't researched the technology to reduce siege attrition, sound good to me!

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    Default Re: When to sally out when being besieged

    Quote Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    Usually I wait to sally out until the message saying that the city is about to surrender pops up. However, your ideas of doing this if you have at least a 50% chance of winning and when another enemy army is approaching, or if you haven't researched the technology to reduce siege attrition, sound good to me!
    Yes. Sometimes the AI is smart ( and even smarter if you play DEI mod ): when an enemy army is besieging your city doesn't start the attack immediately yet is because it's waiting for reinforcements to arrive.
    Waiting several turns when you don't have the technology that reduces attrition and even if there is no other enemy army approaching the city, you wouldn't be able to do anything against the enemy when your units are all crippled.

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    Default Re: When to sally out when being besieged

    Sally out when you have more cavalry than the enemy.

    Sally out when you have at least 1:1 ratio because the AI is just stalling and its better to take out that enemy army sooner than later.

    Sally out when you lightly armored units and you can effectively shut down the enemy's range game near the start of the battle.

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