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    Italian Flags and Banners




    I'm trying to get as many as flags as possible for upcoming 1448 campaign, few are faction wide, as such they will be a specific set of flag for a few numbers of units within a faction, while some others will be purely unit specific. There will be later more for Austria, France, Moldova, burgundian unit, and more.

    For Genoese mercenaries we will have as follows:

    -Genoa: Doria banners
    -Romans: Doria and Giustiniani banners
    -Rebels: del Carretto
    -Milan: Doria and Spinola
    -France: Grimaldi
    -Austria: Doria
    -Pope, Florence: Fieschi, Spinola(present in Athens)

    So for example, when Romans will hire Genoese crossbowmen and marines, they will have banners from the families with who they had most affinities historically.

    From left to right, top to bottom:


    Giustiniani Longo, Grimaldi, del Carretto, Fieschi, Spinola, Doria.

    Spinola has the old version like in Athens.
    Giustiniani acronyms: "GI" stands for either Giovanni Iustiniani or Giustiniani. "C.SYI" = Civitas of Scio/Chio/Chios.

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    Sicily-Naples royal banners

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    Sicily-Naples Ferran II late era units

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    Sicily - Catalan and regnicole barons, note: Landolina is a very old sicilian lineage, from alsacian ancestry(they were kinsmen with Roger II, to say their seniority), after centuries of "stagnation", they found themselves choosing the right party at the right time, and saw their estates considerably increasing in reward. From the 1400's they became the second in wealth right behind the Ventimiglia, among local barons, for their share of royal monopoly granted on the sicilian wheat vs northern Europe textiles trade. Cabrera and Cruïlles are strong support of the Crown, while Chariamonte, Moncada, Peralta, de Luna, Alagona, were punished and stripped of most their fiefs(around 60% of the sicilian fiefs were re-distributed or re-assigned to the royal desmene after the 1390-1400 events). As such the families are different from 1345 campaign.

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    Sicily - Neapolitan feudatories:
    Marzano, Carracciolo, San Severino d'Aragona and Caldora

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    Papal States general and cavalry

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    Papal States - Savelli, Orsini, Colonna, Gaetani

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    Ferrara - d'Este, Contrari, Boiardi, Rangoni

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    Late era Ferrara - d'Este, da Correggio, Contrari

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    Florentine mercenaries

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    Black Bands Mercenaries - Giovanni de Medici (also known as Giovanni delle Bande Nere)

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    Venice and Venetian mercenaries - Bartolomeo Colleoni

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    Venice -late- and Venetian captains - from top to bottom: Orsini, d'Alviano, Bourbon del Monte

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    Late XVth century - early XVI century flags: Gonzaga, Trivulzio, Venice, Sicily-Naples - size comparison between the two sets.

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    Malatesta mercenary banners

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    Francesco Sforza banners


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    Braccheschi mercenary company(his Leopard flag was sported til the 1480's, long after Braccio death, by Piccinino between others, the bull is his war banner).

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    In game example

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    Further work is being done on non-Italian factions and a preview will follow for them too. They may be subject to change, if I manage to find better heraldic items or depending my own research.

    Credits and gratitude to Wappenwiki, stemmieimprese site - Massimo Predonzani, parvimilites - Mario Venturi. Matthaeus(Tsardoms old member) for the original flag meshes.
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    Default Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Reserved
    Last edited by Wallachian; April 11, 2023 at 07:19 AM.

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    Sick I love it

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    It looks great!

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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Fantastic, amazing I am overwhelmed but what about Borgia?


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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Love me some Borgia. But not sure for what faction or units we would use them. They would only work for the Papal States for a small period of time.

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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    Love me some Borgia. But not sure for what faction or units we would use them. They would only work for the Papal States for a small period of time.
    I know, it is a shame really I would like to be Casare for a little while Duke of Valentinois

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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    We definitely have Cesare as an emerging character. You can hire him as a condottiere if you play as Florence. We might think of a better way to have him in so that all Italian factions can use him. Because he's such a cool character. We even create the Duke of Romagna ancillary for him


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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Thats fantastic I cannot wait I am like a child at Christmas

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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiokhos Euergetes View Post
    Fantastic, amazing I am overwhelmed but what about Borgia?
    I think it could be if he emerged during his Romagna campaign, so French Pikemen(Gascons/Picards...etc) in pontifical service(sub-lead by Allègre IIRC) could have the Borgia bull as banner, but the problem remains: Borgia rule is a very short episode at the scale of History and there is no specific italian unit that used his heraldry as legacy.

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    Default Re: Tsardoms Total War - Italian Flags and Banners Preview

    You make valid points.....kill joy
    Still a great preview though

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    Looking forward to seeing these in action!

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