Quick roman report

[TiFlo]

Hi folks!

I've been following RS for over a month as it looked very promising. Indeed, after trying it for 3 hours, It does seem well polished and the gameplay is good!

Really nothing to report so far, except that. I Don't know whether this is intended or not, but I find this a bit odd :
Playing as Rome
H/M
Provincial campaign (Icetorque/Webbird map)

I'm in 264BC, and I am litterally struggling not to grow to fast, trying to hold my expension and to keep from improving my economy, in order to prevent a Roman steamroll all the way to the 4 corners of the map before even reaching the Marian reform. I have loads of cash (I've been given thousands denarii to my neighbours), legions everywhere in Italy and even building ships does nothing. Look at the screenshot, you'll see what I mean...


(The UI is that of EB, but this is Roma Surrectum on screen).

What follows I believe should go into the "suggestions thread", but since I'm at it...
- You should really increase the units' upkeep cost ;
- Same thing with the ships (REALLY higher ; at least, this way it gets a lot harder to control the seas and gives you an easy way to "store" your money) ;
- I think you can still double both the buildings' cost and construction time.

Hope this is helpful, and thanks for all your work, it is worth trying it

TiFlo

[Tyr]

Thankyou, this feedback is appreciated; we will bear in mind your findings. Please keep us updated on your reults.

[Erdbeerchen]

Same here, way too much money + i exierienced that your population is growing like rabbits
I can´t spend my money even by building the most expensive buildings.
Side effect, losses on the battlefield don´t really care cause i can replace them pretty easily while developing all of my towns at the same time and still making money.

Suggestions:

Unit upkeep 2 times higher
Building costs atleast 2 times higher
Dunno what can be done about population growth



ANYWAY NICE MOD, good job guys it is more than i´ve expected.


I will post a screenshot as soon as possible


Edit: You think this will change Tone??? Ok then i will expand as fast as possible to see if it make a difference

[tone]

It'll be interesting to see what happens once you're outside your AOR

[dvk901]

Hi folks!

I've been following RS for over a month as it looked very promising. Indeed, after trying it for 3 hours, It does seem well polished and the gameplay is good!

Really nothing to report so far, except that. I Don't know whether this is intended or not, but I find this a bit odd :
Playing as Rome
H/M
Provincial campaign (Icetorque/Webbird map)

I'm in 264BC, and I am litterally struggling not to grow to fast, trying to hold my expension and to keep from improving my economy, in order to prevent a Roman steamroll all the way to the 4 corners of the map before even reaching the Marian reform. I have loads of cash (I've been given thousands denarii to my neighbours), legions everywhere in Italy and even building ships does nothing. Look at the screenshot, you'll see what I mean...


(The UI is that of EB, but this is Roma Surrectum on screen).

What follows I believe should go into the "suggestions thread", but since I'm at it...
- You should really increase the units' upkeep cost ;
- Same thing with the ships (REALLY higher ; at least, this way it gets a lot harder to control the seas and gives you an easy way to "store" your money) ;
- I think you can still double both the buildings' cost and construction time.

Hope this is helpful, and thanks for all your work, it is worth trying it

TiFlo

Before we panic, however, I would ask that you keep playing this campaign as a test for us. You are still solely in Italy....outside Italy, there are NO economic bonuses, and you can't recruit anything except in the designated Military Base AOR's. What I'm concerned about is that you have a lot of money...but you are only 17 years into the campaign, and you will now have to conquer that map with the troops you can only build in Italy and at your present position, Mediolanium and Patavium.

You will be stripping them of population and having to transfer colonists from big cities to them. and it will cost 66,200 denarii to build the Imperial Palace, Royal barracks, and Roman Military Base you will need...in EACH of those cities just to be able to get to the Imperial Legions. That' a 132,000 denarii, half of what you have saved.

I would like to be assured that you actually do have too much money before I go doubling eveything, just to find out that nothing can be built as your Empire grows too large. This AOR and Economic system are an 'experiment', so it would help us a lot if you could continue playing this and report how it goes.

Thanks.

[Erdbeerchen]

Update on my roman Campaign:

Here´s a picture of my actual income (Reform of Marius just happened

[dvk901]

Update on my roman Campaign:

Here´s a picture of my actual income (Reform of Marius just happened

OK.....now THAT is too much money. Building costs just skyrocketed in your area.

[Erdbeerchen]

Building costs just skyrocketed in your area.

:hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:

What you mean dvk?

Hmmm, looks like i better wait for patches to come out to fix this problem...

Actually the MOD is fun and very good, those problems i mentioned are minor ones and i bet they get fixed pretty easily.

[TiFlo]

The year is 240BC. Rome is still trying to hold Her expension, but have been sort of forced to take over Segestica and Ravena, because Her northern frontier was being harassed by strong armies from the Free People.

The once mighty kingdom of Pergamum is no more, having been taken care of by the Free People of Asia Minor.
The Greek cities and Casse tribes have been both wiped out of the earth by the Macedonian phalanxes ; their king is now heading North and threatens the ferocious Germanic tribes of steamrolling them. Rome's diplomats have been helping those savages with high amounts of money for some time, but they apparently prefer to spend it in beer and so this has proved to be useless. The Senate is seriously considering to order legions overseas so as to strike deep into Macedonia's homeland and teach those half Greeks where they belong to!

Money is still flooding, only the Gods know when the fountain will run dry.

That holly year of 240BC, the Gods have given Rome its new legions, in the form of the VE Republican Legion, now available at the newly built Army barracks in the City of Rome. The senators seem to wonder why the hell did Rome get those new troops that early, but this is the will of the Gods -probably that of the AI and Dvk too-, and the way to it is impenetrable.



Generals are readying, legions are gathering all over Italy. For the first time of Her history Rome will send legions outside of Italy. Soon the Senate will unleash the power of the Blessed City on one of Her unfortunate foe. Soon Her soldiers will stamp Her mark on a foreign land. Soon the world will know that Rome is freakin' rich, and that because She does not know what to do with so much cash, She is about to set the world in flames in order to make it worth!

[Hister]

Hmmm, looks like i better wait for patches to come out to fix this problem...

[tone]

You can always try out some custom battles while you're waiting

[Hister]

yep, you are wright! I'll do this as soon game downloads and that is in 1 hour from now - jupiii...

[Kamos]

God the Macedonians are monsters on there mine keep getting flattened by the Greeks.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

hmm... at 264BC, my sicilian financial status is almost equal to his. i have approx 200,000 denarii and dont really need to prevent myself from expanding. have a screenshot but its too large for imageshsck. anyone got an alternative hosting site? this is confirmation of what his game is doing is happening on mine.

Skandranon Rakshae

[.Socrates]

hmm... at 264BC, my sicilian financial status is almost equal to his. i have approx 200,000 denarii and dont really need to prevent myself from expanding. have a screenshot but its too large for imageshsck. anyone got an alternative hosting site? this is confirmation of what his game is doing is happening on mine.

Skandranon Rakshae

Save it as a JPEG.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

ahh... so thats how you do it. thanks socrates. lets see... here we go

EDIT: pic removed to make room for AAR pics

And the err... Syracusicans? Syracusians? whatever, their coffers are overflowing and they only have 5 cities vs Rome's 8 or 10. anyhow, my affinity to the Sicilians (something like that) has paid off with no natural enemies, the largest treasury in thr world, more money than i need, and having an early economic revolution. i have trade set up with the Romans, Free Poeple to the north, and the Carthegenians. i think by 250BC i will have at least 500,000 denarii at this rate or even more. i personally would like the money if only i could conquer ...

Skandranon Rakshae

EDIT: forgot to mention, the ship's new skins are absolutely gorgeous!

[TiFlo]

I've started another campaign with the patch, as the other one was getting quite ridiculous.
I agree that you may have done too much with the Free People, seing after only 20 years the Seleucids own all Middle East. However, it still looks much better now. No faction has disapeared yet (Epiros has only one city left, and Greece is being pushed to the sea by Macedonia), and they all managed to get over the Free People (yeah, I bet by 200BC there will be not a single one of them left on the map). Money is coming in at a slower pace, though I still find it not that much of a challenge. Plus the lower building time and unit cost does not fit at all (was that realy needed?).



So far, this mod is coming along pretty well ; You guys are on the right path, and you are now entering the hard time of micro-adjusting

PS : @ dvk, I'm sorry for the EB UI. It doesn't do justice to yours (which is very well done) and it even mislead some people. That's just that since I've tried it I need to edit all the RTW mods I play with to get it in... I did not cut that one because I wanted to display more than the map, but if you find it unfair, I'll just remove it

[nemesis]

Roman campaign, I have 2 650 000 denarii and it's 253BC. VH/M settings

[dvk901]

Roman campaign, I have 2 650 000 denarii and it's 253BC. VH/M settings

Is this with Patch 8??

[dvk901]

The Big map is a much larger scale map....but less territory covered. The Mundus is a smaller scale map, but you get a bigger picture of the world.