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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    It being against the constitution is not be all end all it once would have been. The supreme court is so captured/tilted towards the right that they will enteratin stuff like this even if it would have got thrown out in any other court.
    I don't think that law would ever reach the Supreme Court, and if it did, then I would predict 7 to 9 votes against it. The SC is tilted towards the right, but these are judges, not crazy uncles in Facebook rants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I don't think that law would ever reach the Supreme Court, and if it did, then I would predict 7 to 9 votes against it. The SC is tilted towards the right, but these are judges, not crazy uncles in Facebook rants.
    Nah I've not trust in this supreme court, they claim to be originalist or whatever but they generally just vote along whatever the republican party lane is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Yes they are.
    In Russia the state doesn't have an official database for those that write blogs about Putin. They are powerless anyway. There are people criticizing Putin and all but they don't get positions in the TV. If journalists dig up actual damaging info for Putin, their life-expectancy is shorter but that, horrible as it is, is not done often. More or less people criticize Putin in Russia without having to register and pay fines.
    Not true. It is illegal in Russian to criticize Putin or anything he does or suggest he is not always right about everything all the time.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...russia/585502/

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/07/...i-war-protests

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-milit.../31737627.html

    That law has no chance to pass as it is 100% against free speech, which is in the constitution.
    That means nothing anymore. I can almost guarantee it will pass the SC, then every GOP state legislature will pass their own versions of it to outlaw anything less than fawning praise of Trump and the party he owns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    If you wanted, you can expand that statement to "all people lie" and still have the same amount of technical correctness. I think the problem is in the lack of utility of such a statement.
    Absolutely true.Let's put it this way,all politicians lie from time to time. alhoon, are you the heir of Diogenes? where is the lantern? (j/k)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Not true. It is illegal in Russian to criticize Putin or anything he does or suggest he is not always right about everything all the time.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...russia/585502/

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/07/...i-war-protests

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-milit.../31737627.html
    Your sources, biased as they are, don't say what you think they say.
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    https://www.newsweek.com/republicans...t-wild-1786617

    Tennessee Lieutenant Governor Randy McNally has said he "enjoys interacting with constituents" and "has no intention of stopping," after it emerged he repeatedly praised racy photos from a local LGBTQ model on Instagram.
    The Republican politician posted the comments on pictures from 20-year-old Franklyn McClur, who shares raunchy images on the platform under the name of franklynsuperstar. In his comments, which were first reported by local news site The Tennessee Holler, McNally frequently referred to McClur by his nickname of "Finn."
    Earlier this year, McNally was presiding over the Tennessee Senate when it passed legislation banning drag performances in non-age-restricted public spaces, along with gender-affirming care for children. These bills were later signed into law by state Governor Bill Lee.
    Remember that if a Republican publicly opposes something, literally anything at all, it is as good as admitting he regularly indulges in whatever it is.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...c8b5cf365&ei=9

    Santos is charged with several crimes, from money laundering and theft of public funds to false statements!

    Good. It was about time this lying Piece of #### was brought to justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...c8b5cf365&ei=9

    Santos is charged with several crimes, from money laundering and theft of public funds to false statements!

    Good. It was about time this lying Piece of #### was brought to justice.
    Given how disorganized the Dems seem to in NY which should look like the blue mirror image of FLA... you would think the Republicans could have just found some guy with a couple car dealerships to run as a small businessman paragon of local business and charities and his worst sin would be his used card dealership turning back few odometer readings.
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    So a whole thread about lying politicians. Who would've saw that coming 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stario View Post
    So a whole thread about lying politicians. Who would've saw that coming ��
    I mean, there's a difference between obfuscating an issue to confuse voters on where you stand (which is fairly bad), or misleading the public by suggesting conspiracy theories might be correct (exceedingly bad), or lying about personal infidelities to avoid embarrassment (also kind of bad), and the sort of narcissistic grandiose lies George Santos has been peddling about himself where he has changed entire swaths of his personal biography to fit a preferred narrative on the campaign trail.

    George Santos doesn't just fib about this or that. He literally said his mother died in 9/11, and that he was part Jewish. LOL. He said he wasn't a drag queen when he clearly was one. And worse, way worse, he scammed a Navy veteran trying to raise money for his dying service dog.

    Now, being a scam artist is the sort of scummy behavior Trump has done, bankrupting casinos and being rightfully sued over his fake Trump University scam, and Trump lies about doing illicit behavior and even about writing his book Art of the Deal (ghostwriter did it for him), but not even Trump lies like Santos. Even if Trump lies about his GPA or the crowd size at his inauguration, he doesn't just make up gigantic portions of his life and career or education. Santos on the other hand claimed he graduated from Baruch College and New York University when he did neither! He claimed he worked for Goldman Sachs and CityGroup, but again, neither of those claims are true!

    Those are lies on a fantastical scale about one's self. He might as well claim he pulled Excalibur from the stone and ruled England as King Arthur after winning the Nobel Prize in physics and pharmacology following his curing of skin cancer and career as an astronaut.

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    Well Santos got hammered by the Ethics committee. But seeing has he has agreed to resign I wonder what the calculus for the Republicans is. Its got to be unappetizing to keep him but expelling him while its good optics cuts their house majority and they are clearly not a well disciplined caucus right now and losing a seat now might risky. The special could actually flip the seat back blue vs loosing a vote.

    I suppose they could play it as well now the dems should expel Mendez from the senate. But of course even if that worked it a really a no risk option for them.
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    OP accusing a politician of lying LMAO 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stario View Post
    OP accusing a politician of lying LMAO 藍
    Kinda boring comment there. There is difference between making aspirational statements about what you want to do and what it turns out you can do in office and being a complete con artist.
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    So there's a floor on elected officials' behaviour at last? Been a pretty deep dive recently. Maybe they can get Gaetz next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    So there's a floor on elected officials' behaviour at last? Been a pretty deep dive recently. Maybe they can get Gaetz next.
    I would doubt it. Gaetz was what driving about with 17 year olds not 12 year olds. Betting all to many of the olds (white men in congress post 60 years) have a intern/campaign staff event buried in their past at about the same age. No sense in upsetting that apple cart/s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    I would doubt it. Gaetz was what driving about with 17 year olds not 12 year olds. Betting all to many of the olds (white men in congress post 60 years) have a intern/campaign staff event buried in their past at about the same age. No sense in upsetting that apple cart/s.
    We have a similar atmosphere in the national capital. Lots of young people working for their heroes get screwed. Not many children though.

    Had a mate who worked in Canberra, she e had an affair with her married superior, went south, she got sacked( the usual method is someone asks to use your security pass because they "forgot theirs" and suddenly there's a spot check- instant sacking for not having your pass on you.

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    George Anthony Kitara Devolder Santos is out. Guess there's some shame in the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irontaino View Post
    George Anthony Kitara Devolder Santos is out. Guess there's some shame in the GOP.
    11 months too late
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