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    Default What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Some things I do ( vanilla version ):

    - Promoting all the characters from my party I can because it increases the tax rate in the provinces they are. And in the case of generals/admirals, it reduces the upkeep cost. The higher their ranks, the less the upkeep cost of fleets and armies.
    - Attaching a dignatary in some armies with the skill that reduces the armies' upkeep cost
    - Increasing the tax rate periodically
    - Whenever possible, I put one building from the yellow group ( something that gives money such as the building that increases wealth generated by slaves ) and one building from the brown group ( industrial building ) in each capital city. And of course I try to upgrade them later. I put those buildings even if they take away public order or food or both things. I just compesate things by putting a public order building. Let's just think of this: If there wasn't any industrial/commercial building that takes public order or food away, the game would be too easy for any person. That's why all buildings ( industrial/commercial buildings and public order buildings as well ) have both their advantages and disadvantages. The game was designed in a way so that a player figures out how to balance things out.
    - Putting in each province the religious building that increases wealth from every source
    - Upgrading all cities when I can
    - Switching between liberating and enslaving battle captives to make some extra money

    What else do you do?
    Last edited by twgamer20197; November 08, 2022 at 06:48 AM.

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Your ideas are good ones. I also:

    - Send an agent or admiral to make contact with other factions in the early campaign, so I can trade with them (especially when playing a Hellenic faction)

    - Specialise provinces, for example constructing agriculture in grain provinces, to get as much benefit from bonuses as possible

    - Multiply bonuses, for example Egypt starts with grain regions (bonuses to agricultural income) and can build the yellow grain market chain (more bonuses to agriculture income) and the sacred grove temple chain (even more agricultural bonuses)

    - Try to expand towards an edge or (even better) a corner of the campaign map, so I have (relatively) safe provinces which are far from any enemy

    - In safe provinces, convert most military buildings to money-making buildings (trade ports as well as the brown and yellow chain buildings you mentioned)

    - Avoid appointing generals who increase corruption, and research technologies which decrease corruption

    - Send rival party members on diplomatic missions (mainly to increase their party loyalty, but also because you sometimes get economic bonuses such as a generous tribute or even a gift of a settlement)

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    Your ideas are good ones. I also:

    - Send an agent or admiral to make contact with other factions in the early campaign, so I can trade with them (especially when playing a Hellenic faction)

    - Specialise provinces, for example constructing agriculture in grain provinces, to get as much benefit from bonuses as possible

    - Multiply bonuses, for example Egypt starts with grain regions (bonuses to agricultural income) and can build the yellow grain market chain (more bonuses to agriculture income) and the sacred grove temple chain (even more agricultural bonuses)

    - Try to expand towards an edge or (even better) a corner of the campaign map, so I have (relatively) safe provinces which are far from any enemy

    - In safe provinces, convert most military buildings to money-making buildings (trade ports as well as the brown and yellow chain buildings you mentioned)

    - Avoid appointing generals who increase corruption, and research technologies which decrease corruption

    - Send rival party members on diplomatic missions (mainly to increase their party loyalty, but also because you sometimes get economic bonuses such as a generous tribute or even a gift of a settlement)

    I haven't paid attention to a detail you mention: that a character who is corrupt shouldn't be appointed to be a general or admiral nor to garrison a city. Thanks for that, mate.
    Besides, I think it is a good idea to make a particular general or admiral a public order/administration specialist. Specially one you are planning to garrison him/her in a province you recently conquered. Once the province is both secured and stabilized, move him/her to another province that needs public order and a better administration.

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Early game? Population boost (migration edict, religious buildings, character traits, etc.), farming/fishing, and nabbing any adjacent trade resources.

    Mid/late game? Expansion to nearby trade resources, specializing provinces, using the tax increase provincial edict, having a champion train up a lower-cost army to gold chevrons.

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Yes, good idea about making a general a public order/administration specialist, particularly for factions whose generals can spread culture and boost public order.

    Yes, boosting population in the early game works well. Good point about using champions to train low-cost units. By the late game, while I'm enjoying using some elite units, I also plenty of cost-effective ones - such as Massilia's own Thureos Spears, and Cimmeria's Scythian Hoplites. Winning battles with a well-trained mid-tier army in the late game can be fun and satisfying.

    Do you find that your income tends to drop in the late game? Mine tends to - with more corruption, the cost of recruiting elite units for where the fighting is most intense, the loss of trading partners (as they're conquered by enemies, or as my faction's expansion causes neutral factions to become hostile), and the need to fight more than one war at the same time. Of course, this can vary depending on who you're playing and where you are on the campaign map, for example a barbarian faction can keep liberating factions, creating new trade partners in the late game.
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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Do you find that your income tends to drop in the late game? Mine tends to - with more corruption, the cost of recruiting elite units for where the fighting is most intense, the loss of trading partners (as they're conquered by enemies, or as my faction's expansion causes neutral factions to become hostile), and the need to fight more than one war at the same time. Of course, this can vary depending on who you're playing and where you are on the campaign map, for example a barbarian faction can keep liberating factions, creating new trade partners in the late game.
    That I would have to figure it out...

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    What is your most income per turn record you achieved in a ROME 2 campaign but only in vanilla version?. Not DEI nor other mod because in vanilla you can't earn as much as you can earn in DEI or Para Bellum or other mod.
    The best income per turn I ever achieved has been about 229000 coins in vanilla by having my tax level at "high". I was able to keep it at "high" without any rebellion problem. But of course that was in last stages in the campaign. What about you?

    Do you find that your income tends to drop in the late game? Mine tends to - with more corruption, the cost of recruiting elite units for where the fighting is most intense, the loss of trading partners (as they're conquered by enemies, or as my faction's expansion causes neutral factions to become hostile), and the need to fight more than one war at the same time. Of course, this can vary depending on who you're playing and where you are on the campaign map, for example a barbarian faction can keep liberating factions, creating new trade partners in the late game.
    Now I figured out that one of the reasons why the income drops in the last stages of the campaign is because maybe some of your high ranked governors died. I mean specially governors that had good administration skills such as more tax rate, less corruption for the whole faction, more income by trading, more income by industry, etc. It means you should train future governors ( reserving them only to be governors. Not generals nor admirals ) specializing them in administration and economy skills/traits. That's why it is important to periodically check your internal politics in order to check if there are new cards available to assign to the political characters who you want them to be only governors.
    A trick I learned from a youtuber gamer is promoting all your female characters from both your party and the rival parties ( That in case you play as a faction that doesn't allow female generals/admirals: typically Rome and most Hellenic factions ) to the highest rank ( gradually over time of course ) because it reduces the corruption from your entire empire. That means more income per turn. Only the highest rank of a female polititian unblocks the ability of corruption reduction. So, go ahead in promoting to the highest rank to all the female political characters you can.
    Last edited by twgamer20197; February 10, 2023 at 01:41 PM.

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Thanks, that's a good tip about training characters to be governors, and using their traits and skills to improve your income and reduce corruption. I've managed an economic victory, but I don't think I've got anywhere near an income of 229,000.

    Do you do anything about characters who have a trait which increases corruption?

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    Thanks, that's a good tip about training characters to be governors, and using their traits and skills to improve your income and reduce corruption. I've managed an economic victory, but I don't think I've got anywhere near an income of 229,000.

    Do you do anything about characters who have a trait which increases corruption?
    It would be a good idea to take note of the characters' names you decide to train them only for being governors so that you don't forget nor lose track of them. Don't assign them to be generals or admirals.

    Maybe you'd break your income record if you get to promote your female politicians to the highest rank. Try it for a next campaign. I think each female politician promoted to the highest rank reduces corruption by 5%. And it is accumulative in your favor. For example let's imagine you get to promote 4 female politicians to the highest rank: that would be 20% less corruption.
    I never thought about doing something with characters who have corruption. Maybe killing them would be an option. Or assigning them to be admirals or generals only for cheap units armies. But don't forget that they shouldn't be garrisoned in any city.
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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Good thinking, yes I'll try that.

    Yes, for characters who increase corruption, maybe sending them to a remote location (for example, commanding a border fort) would help.

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    Default Re: What are your favorite strategies for getting the most income possible per turn?

    Also specially if it's early in the campaign ( You know economy is tougher to manage in the early stage of the campaign ) you could use some of your generals and admirals for raiding a trade route in order to reduce the treasury problem in case you don't care if your relationship with those factions get to deteriorate.
    Something I also try from time to time is asking some factions to give me money away. It won't work in every turn of course but you should try it in a periodical basis.

    Dignataries can also be useful early to steal gold from some factions by deploying them in their territory. And specially if you assign the skill that increases the stolen gold from other factions. But that skill worsens the relationship you have with those factions. In this case you can either try to balance things out if you don't want to get into war with those factions or you can decide not to care about it even if those factions get to declare you war later.
    Last edited by twgamer20197; February 17, 2023 at 08:39 AM.

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