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Thread: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Hello Macaras, glad to see that you always give good advice on AI!
    It would be nice if the vassal system worked both ways indeed.

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Macaras View Post
    Let us know what was the result, please.
    Indeed, this would be helpful. Do we know if the other mods (EBII, Tsardoms, TATW) use the vassal function? I have a recollection that it was a feature prone to exploitation by the player (or other AIs?) - the AI was eager to give money, the player would take it, the script would get the AI out of the debt, the AI would get into debt again etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaras View Post
    The vassals is a little tricky, right now there is a condition that ai will never accept human being his protector. The other way its possible, ai will sometimes offer protection to human. It was inherited originally in AI, I didn't change it, I am not sure why specifically why human is excluded. In many mods the vassalege is completely swithed off. If you want to test it with human included, just find this sections in a descr_campaign_ai_db.xml :

    <decision_entry>
    <min_entry borders_all_our_regions="true" target_human="false" stance="AtWar" num_enemies="1" is_neighbour="true"/>
    <max_entry borders_all_our_regions="true" target_human="false" production_balance="0.5" military_balance="0.4" target_num_enemies="2" is_neighbour="true"/>
    <faction_attitude want_be_protect="true" continue="true"/>
    </decision_entry>

    and remove target_human="false". This section is repeated few times, so you need to do it for all of them.

    Let us know what was the result, please.
    I hear some modders say that the AI become inactive when it is vassalized, but some other saying it wasn't affected. I did not test this myself.
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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Just asking because I like this mod so much: is there yet any release date of the next update?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by WitchKing View Post
    Just asking because I like this mod so much: is there yet any release date of the next update?
    We've restored our files and will probably release a new version soon. It's basically ready, but I need to adjust files to the @kostic changes in the units.

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Hello sorry if this is stupid question.i did lot a search but couldnt find answer for it;

    farms and roads cost 20 turn.is that intended or some kind of bug?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by feuersturm View Post
    Hello sorry if this is stupid question.i did lot a search but couldnt find answer for it;

    farms and roads cost 20 turn.is that intended or some kind of bug?
    No worries, this is the right place!

    The build time is intended: think of farms and road as representing the upscaling of the whole region infrastructure, not just one building being made somewhere.

    Also the mod is more slow paced and development focused, and every settlement won't be able to build everything and upgrade to max pop.
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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Does it usually make sense to try to upgrade roads and farms right away if you can afford it or build other things first?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by dirty_neoliberal View Post
    Does it usually make sense to try to upgrade roads and farms right away if you can afford it or build other things first?
    it depends what you are in need (eg a brothel when public order is low). but in general - yes, they're usually first to be built.

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by WitchKing View Post
    Just asking because I like this mod so much: is there yet any release date of the next update?
    It seems we've got a problem with integration of the @kostic files (all the beautiful units) with the other files (script and diplomacy). We're looking for solution but it may take time, unfortunately.

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Thanks for the info! That's bad news but no problem and take your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    It seems we've got a problem with integration of the @kostic files (all the beautiful units) with the other files (script and diplomacy). We're looking for solution but it may take time, unfortunately.
    ooh I hope you can fix it soon and it doesn't bring you many headaches! We will wait as long as it takes for the new version and thus be able to start an exciting campaign!
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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Just a quick question, is it known that when you hover over france in the campaign map, the fps starts to drop by around 20 fps? Or is it just me? And is there a fix for this?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    To fly over the map without losing fps, simply deselect the previously selected character or community.


    Otherwise I have reassuring news about the next version: the cause of the crash has finally been found and fixed. @Jurand is absent this week but will finalize the next version as soon as he returns !

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by kostic View Post
    To fly over the map without losing fps, simply deselect the previously selected character or community.


    Otherwise I have reassuring news about the next version: the cause of the crash has finally been found and fixed. @Jurand is absent this week but will finalize the next version as soon as he returns !

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    This has probably been pointed out or is known, but I gotta ask. Why are the Norwegian FM bodyguards, the unit of "Chudy"?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by The Despondent Mind View Post
    This has probably been pointed out or is known, but I gotta ask. Why are the Norwegian FM bodyguards, the unit of "Chudy"?
    I don't think it's really the case. Can you provide a screenshot?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Hello
    Forgive me if this is a so called "stupid question". I also searched for this topic in the forums, but I didn't find any search function for searching internally in a specific sub-forum, so if this has been answered elsewhere I haven't seen that.
    The install-instructions tells me to "Unpack the 7-Zip file into the mods-folder". Doing so just leads to all the content of the mod being dropped into the mods-folder without being inside a specific mod-folder (the folders called "americas" "crusades" "Divide and Conquer" "SS6.3" and so on). I can only assume there was supposed to be a folder called "SS6.3" or something (like there is in version 0.97) which all the unpacked content of the 7-zip file wa supposed to be inside of? I'm not sure if this is an oversight?

    If you thought that this was so obvious that anyone will be able to solve this on their own, please understand that not everyone has the know-how to even pick up on there being anything wrong in the first place. Many people will just follow the install-instructions blindly and be confused when they hit "launch" and nothing happens. Isn't the whole point of step-by-step install instructions to help those people who don't understand these things intuitively?

    Anyways, can I just create a folder under "Medieval II total war > mods" that is called "SS6.3", and unpack the 0.98 download into that?
    Can I call the folder something else than "SS6.3" or will that create problems?

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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by peikern View Post
    Hello
    Forgive me if this is a so called "stupid question". I also searched for this topic in the forums, but I didn't find any search function for searching internally in a specific sub-forum, so if this has been answered elsewhere I haven't seen that.
    The install-instructions tells me to "Unpack the 7-Zip file into the mods-folder". Doing so just leads to all the content of the mod being dropped into the mods-folder without being inside a specific mod-folder (the folders called "americas" "crusades" "Divide and Conquer" "SS6.3" and so on). I can only assume there was supposed to be a folder called "SS6.3" or something (like there is in version 0.97) which all the unpacked content of the 7-zip file wa supposed to be inside of? I'm not sure if this is an oversight?

    If you thought that this was so obvious that anyone will be able to solve this on their own, please understand that not everyone has the know-how to even pick up on there being anything wrong in the first place. Many people will just follow the install-instructions blindly and be confused when they hit "launch" and nothing happens. Isn't the whole point of step-by-step install instructions to help those people who don't understand these things intuitively?

    Anyways, can I just create a folder under "Medieval II total war > mods" that is called "SS6.3", and unpack the 0.98 download into that?
    Can I call the folder something else than "SS6.3" or will that create problems?
    Hi! no worries, the installation method changed so we understand it could be disorienting for people using to the previous way of doing things.
    SSHIP 0.98 no longer needs to be inside a folder named SS6.3. Instead it should be inside a folder named SSHIP_098, and extracting with 7zip as indicated should take are of that. If it doesn't, you can indeed create the folder /mods/SSHIP_098 youself and unzip the mod inside of it.

    Hope it clears things up!
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    Default Re: [DOWNLOAD] SSHIP 0.98 ver. September 8th, 2022

    Indeed, there is a lack in the installation explanations:
    You must first create a SSHIP_098 folder and unzip the zip file in it before launching the mod with the SSHIP 098 launcher.bat otherwise it won't work !

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