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Last edited by conon394; August 30, 2022 at 01:13 PM.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
Really which ones?Well, US did illegally invade several countries over their crime of undermining petrodollar, so it is definitely not a myth.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
Iraq, Libya, they tried the same thing in Syria, but China and Russia saved the day. That's to name a few. They still failed to save petrodollar, which doesn't change the fact that US government didn't cause deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process of that failing.
We can also remember America's cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia, world terrorism capital.
As a myth it needed no saving. THe total oil volume that Iraq, Syria and Libya could have valued in what other currency would not have moved the market for the dollar an iota.They still failed to save petrodollar
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
I addressed this in the part of my post which you carefully omitted from quoting: just because they failed, didn't mean that they haven't tried.
Petrodollar is going to die anyways, but in 2000-2010s, Blair , Dubya, Obama and the rest of the globalist war criminal club thought it would work.
Their reason for their interventions (good or ill stupid or theoretically good) had more or less zero do with defending a non existent petro dollar.Petrodollar is going to die anyways, but in 2000-2010s, Blair , Dubya, Obama and the rest of the globalist war criminal club thought it would work.
Or better yet HH why show the maths and demonstrated exactly what would happen if every nation that produced oil demanded it be priced in its own currency. The simple reality is outside of some back scratching needed to move along from his rather swift and not so diplomatic dismemberment of of Brenton Woods the petro dollar is is about as dated as the Nixon presidency.
Last edited by conon394; September 02, 2022 at 01:48 PM.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
Saying look petro dollar is not an argument. So there is not much to say. You have not demonstrated the mythical petro dollar is a factor in any US action against Iraq, Syria or Libya.that doesn't really address anything that I said.
You might start by actually outlining what you imagine you are talking about and how exactor to the supposed petro dollar would hurt the US and such motivate wars. It also nice if you also describe how the us failed save your mythical petro dollar.
There reality what oil is priced matters not much at all. The real question is are the margin benefits to the US (and UK and Canada and Australia) the Dollar as de facto world currency worth the cost the US incurs and trust me the countries who benefit China, Germany, Japan really really don't want to trade places. Xi would probably have heart failure if the US said next week you know what Kaynes was right we going to implement the Bancor(*) we talked to the UK and their all in too sorry we will not absorbing your surplus anymore. Yep its going hurt us but you will going to hitting the wall a lot harder.
* realistically we abandoning Bretten woods lite (what think you are vaguely reaching at with your petro dollar mantra but seeming have no real ideal of the implied balance sheet implied by that)
Last edited by conon394; September 03, 2022 at 03:55 PM.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
Well, grassroots Weather Underground tankie left is dead and modern liberal left is just a political extension of the same swampy oligarchy that had itself represented by literal evangelicals only a few election cycles ago. Modern left is just a political brothel, nothing more.