Originally Posted by irontainoSpoiler Alert, click show to read:
Leftists are already working hard on that:
At many U.S. universities, the tendency to self-segregate has become a familiar and accepted occurrence, evident in a wide array of college settings including housing and social gatherings, classes and training events, protests, and grievance sessions, and even separate commencement events. In many ways, this trend represents a return to the “separate but equal” doctrine ruled by the U.S. Supreme Court in Brown v. The Board of Education of Topeka (1954) as unconstitutional, which gave birth to the Civil Rights Movement and integration.
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1263825.pdf
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1. You're veering wildly off topic now.
2. A handful of student groups is the best you got?
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Yeah, the Democrats and the so-called "progressive" "liberals" are going to do absolutely nothing because they do not really care about women or abortions. They will milk this for votes as much as they can and if possible actively try to make things worse for the pro-deathers to amplify the effect.
That article is full of might, could, would, and can only scrounge up a completely unrelated example of a senator who tried to remove IUDs from Medicaid. Leaving aside the absolute insanity and claiming that Medicaid should be paying for IUDs, this is fairly weak-sauce example in a world where condoms and diaphragms are almost literally a dime a dozen and the proposal was not even targeting the contraception angle, but simply to remove unnecessary procedures from what is supposed to be a government run emergency medical relief fund for the needy.
If you have any other proof of this "conservative" conspiracy against contraception I am eager to hear it but until then you simply do not have a leg to stand on.
"Because I said so" is not an argument friend Irontanio. Surely you know this.
Abortion is not a right and the religious beliefs of the 6 justices who voted yes is not public knowledge. Also overturning Roe vs Wade does not impede abortion, it simply allows states to make up their own mind.
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Again, should, could, would. Let me know when it actually happens.
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Nothing in your link mentions Biden condemning his fellow Democrats for calling the court and its decision “illegitimate….extremist…” etc while urging the public to “defy” the ruling and to “take to the streets” and “fight.” Not to mention Psaki explicitly stating that the POTUS “welcomes and encourages” illegal activity:
Originally Posted by PsakiWhoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1507
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Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
We can assume that next the right will try to find out the identities of any women who has ever had an abortion so they can be executed. If not, then they clearly do not really consider abortion murder and all opposition to abortion is solely about their need to wield power over women.
Since conservatism is based on the idea that certain people are inherently inferior and shouldn't have rights, that is certain. But they won't stop there:
-A national abortion ban, no exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, rape, or incest.
-A national gay marriage ban.
-Outlawing of homosexuality in general, along with the creation of a stasi-like group to spy on people and arrest suspected homosexuals.
-Forced "conversion therapy".
-Outlawing of interracial marriages. Like most conservatives, Thomas likely assumes that when he removes the civil rights of others he will somehow be exempt. I'd love to see the look on his face the day he and his wife are arrested under the new national racial purity laws.
-Repealing laws against spousal rape and domestic abuse.
-Repealing the 13th and 19th amendments.
-Removing the voting rights of non-whites.
-The creation of a state church everyone must join (with heavy tithes of course) under penalty of law.
The right to life is a fundamental human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights art 3 , the European Convention on Human rights, the American Convention on Human Rights and it is enshrined in the US Declaration of Independence. The right to allow or ban abortions stems from the same place that gives a state the right to have the death penalty or not.*
*Do not think that i am defending the death penalty. I am not. Personally I think it is a barbaric practice of an inferior and thankfully declining culture. Just like non life-threatening abortions.
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Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Emphasis mine.Article 1
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
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"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
That's not what conservatism means by any definition.
I'd say this is a strawman argument, but frankly that seems like a gross understatement. Is any of this even remotely considered anywhere in the US?
Rightly or wrongly, the only effect this decision has is to state that abortion is not a constitutional right. It does not stipulate whether or not it is legal, which is a legislative issue rather than a judicial one.
Precisely. If a fetus was treated as an actual person, fathers would be forced to pay childcare support from day one of conception and women would be able to do things like take out two life insurance policies, etc.
That is not what is going on here, though.
What is going on here is a bunch of Evangelicals whooping and hollering in a maddening circle jerk that the rest of the country should be punished for its naughty sex sins and that the government should snoop around in your bedroom, in your personal space and belongings for evidence that you were pregnant or had a miscarriage.
The fact that Supreme Court Justice Thomas just today hinted that not only gay sex and gay marriage are on the chopping block, but also contraception and birth control, is confirmation of that glib fascist goal of Evangelicals. They say they hate Sharia Law and want to bomb Iran while unironically turning this country into a theocratic Christian version of Iran. The funny thing is that some states are trying to ban abortion in all cases, even if it endangers the mother's life or will produce a child with severe health defects. Not even the freaking Taliban in Afghanistan enforce that kind of law.
American Evangelicals are literally worse than the Taliban.
They literally overturned a 50-year precedent of Roe v. Wade; what makes you think anything is sacrosanct anymore when it comes to precedent, especially newer rulings? And Alito overturned Roe in part by citing a literal 17th-century English jurist who thought women were witches. That's the sort of reasonable modern thinking behind this decision. Might as well bring witch burnings back too while we're scouring the late medieval and early modern period for advice on how to deal with women's issues in the 21st century.
They're definitely going to go after abortifacient pills next and other forms of birth control. The only Schadenfreude pleasure I might get out of any of this is conservative men in red Republican-dominated states getting all pissy and angry that their usual Trojan condoms are no longer available on the store shelf, if we keep going down this absurd road. A real "leopards ate my face" moment for the people who voted for leopards to eat their face off.
Well that's good to hear, and I imagine it's how most Romanians feel after the last executions were carried out against former dictator Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife, but here in the good ole USA not every state has outlawed capital punishment. In regards to abortion, this happened just recently this year: Murder charges dropped against Texas woman for ‘self-induced abortion’: Lizelle Herrera has been released after being thrown in jail last week, while district attorney says this is ‘not a criminal matter’.
Make no mistake, Evangelicals don't just want to force women to give birth in a country without universal healthcare coverage (that's right, being pregnant and delivering a baby is expensive, unlike in Romania, let alone Canada). American Evangelicals also want to strap said women down onto the lethal injection table and smile as they writhe and die in their restraints. How wholesome!
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The ruling is a simple finding of fact that the Constitution does not include a right to abortion. The legal reasoning (if one takes the time to read it) is irreligious in nature. Neither Congress, nor the states, are prohibited from sanctioning abortion.
This is the inverse of reality. The only objective criteria of "personhood" are derived from biological fact. The rest are concocted at the user's subjective convenience.
As is plainly evidenced by this debate, in utero humans are effected by "social contracts" and are therefore participants in it.Otherwise the foundation of rights is a social contract, and how can something that isn't born be a participant in a social contract?
I can only quote myself:Precisely. If a fetus was treated as an actual person, fathers would be forced to pay childcare support from day one of conception and women would be able to do things like take out two life insurance policies, etc.
But as the sentence was already leaked i'm not really surprised or upset, its only sad.
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Hale was referenced along with Coke and Blackstone because they were referenced in the Roe v Wade opinion of the court. The reason: “Roe either ignored or misstated this history, and Casey declined to reconsider Roe faulty historical analysis. It is therefore important to set the record straight.”Originally Posted by Roma Victrix
Originally Posted by RvWUsing a deliberately misconstrued reference to slander the Court during an internet rant is bad enough, but the worst part is it’s what passes for journalism in a media environment dominated by the liberal establishment.Originally Posted by Dobbs v Jackson
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Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII