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    Default [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Original Discussion.

    Notice: the purpose of this amendment is to make in clearer, in the Constitution, where personal reference are to be considered on topic within the Curia and Prothalamos. It does not change in any way the mechanics, nor changes the role or duties of the Consul.

    Actual wording
    7 Due to the nature of the Curia and its related fora, The Consul recognizes that off topic and personal references are allowed, within reason.


    New wording
    Personal references are permitted in, and with respect to the subjects of, threads explicitly dedicated to the discussion of Citizenship Applications, Awards proposals, Curial Office Elections, Ostraka and VoNCs.


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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Opposed.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    It’s not perfect but it’s better than the current moderation system which seems too superfluous and open to interpretation/abuse by moderation

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Opposed

    The original text is much clearer than the proposed text and all this does is needlessly constrict discussion while failing to address the supposed problem, which has occurred precisely in the places the amendment allows personal references.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Intent aside the wording of this proposal is pretty damn abysmal, I agree with Adrian on that.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Well if you people have an alternative to the wording I have no problems to review it, of course.

    As I said the purpose is just to make that clearer, so any alternative is valid to me.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Support, a global 'within reason' for the whole curia is about as ambiguous as it gets when it comes to using personal references. Restricting it's use to curia affairs where it is actually necessary is welcome.










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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Well if you people have an alternative to the wording I have no problems to review it
    I already gave you multiple suggestions on Discord that you seem to have ignored here

    Anyway, I wouldn't support any variant of this proposal, so.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Akar View Post
    I already gave you multiple suggestions on Discord that you seem to have ignored here

    Anyway, I wouldn't support any variant of this proposal, so.
    I honestly don't remember them, I'm old you know

    Anyways, ofc if you oppose the idea in principle it does not make sense to review the wording RN.

    Any other input will be welcomed.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Flinn View Post
    Any other input will be welcomed.
    Le bump

    There doesn't seem to be much of an interest to further discuss this amendment and anyways the Curia is very quiet these days, so if nothing new pops up in a couple of days, please move this to vote, Akar.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    I think the camps are quite set to be honest, so I don't expect to see much new pop in.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    @ Akar, you can move this to vote at your convenience, thanks!
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Moved to vote.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Link to vote thread?










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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Link.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Regulations and Procedures to Section I - note n° 7

    Whoops, thanks Flinn.

    I knew I had forgotten something when I posted that

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