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    Default [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Esteemed fellow Citizens,

    I come hither today to propose to you Withwnar for the Legio 501st Modder (Gold) Award.

    In order to qualify for this award, one has to be: creating a detailed and original tutorial containing relevant media (screenshots, video, code snippets), releasing a minor mod involving at minimum a single modding section (units, scripting, mapping, animations, sounds, media) of work estimated to have taken more than 5 hours or a remarkable act that benefits TWC modding community.

    Now, for those of us who are not familiar with Withwnars work. What did Withwnar do, in order to qualify for this little bling?

    Aside from his continous and outstanding activity in the M2 Workshop, his ever helpful behavior and all his released mods? He created and published the following tutorials, tools and ressources:

    - TW Map Reader
    - diplomacy_mission: how to use
    - Forced dimplomacy
    - Give a region to a faction via script
    - Unique Names (avoiding labels)
    - SoundExtractor 1.2
    - PercentageUniteAttribute log error filter
    - Faction destroyed event

    and here I simply stop posting his further tutorials, tools and ressources, because there are so many, that this should suffice. If you want to check for more for yourself, simply visit his profile and search for threads started.

    So, my esteemed fellow citizens, do you think Withwnar invested more than 5 hours?

    Proposer: one too old for that
    Supporters: Jurand of Cracow, Gaius Baltar, Akar, Flinn
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    This post was made on purpose.

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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    I do not believe this is one of the awards that the Curia is empowered to hand out.

    The awards the Curia are empowered to hand out are listed in the Constitution,


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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Quote Originally Posted by Akar View Post
    I do not believe this is one of the awards that the Curia is empowered to hand out.

    The awards the Curia are empowered to hand out are listed in the Constitution,

    Why was it issued by the Curia the one time before?

    Obviously, Hader and 17 more citizens deemed it to be absolutely within the remit of the Curia to decide to award it to Gigantus in 2019. What has changed since?
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    I do enthusiastically support. Withwnar is an exceptional modder, helping us all.
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    There's clearly a problem of procedures here, pretty obvious someone forgot to update the constitution

    My suggestion is that in the light of this, both this Award and Akar's thread will be closed, until it is clarified if this award is or not a Curial award and the Constitution amended accordingly, if that's the case
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    A very sensible suggestion, dude.

    I can follow that.

    Sir Consul, would you please put this proposal on hold until the necessary procedure is in place?

    Also, I will refrain from proposing the next candidates until after the procedure is settled.


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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    If this procedure continues: Support
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Support.


    A Silver Medal was awarded to Mortici Iunia Bruti earlier this year.

    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...Medal-(Silver)


    Yes, this is a Curial Award I remember the discussion for the creation of this medal.



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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Yes, this is a Curial Award I remember the discussion for the creation of this medal.
    For the record, just because something was done in the past doesn't mean it was done correctly or following procedure . But yes, Mak sent me the thread where these awards were amended into Curial Awards. It's curious that the const. was never properly updated with it, but no matter. We know the truth now and this is a valid curial award.

    Sir Consul, would you please put this proposal on hold until the necessary procedure is in place?
    I can indeed. Do you want me to lock the thread or just hold off on moving forward to vote?

    I personally don't see a benefit in locking this thread or the abolition thread, but I'll confer with my Censors about it. I think we're all on the same page here now though (thanks, Mak), and I don't think that restarting everything really serves to benefit anyone. We'll find out in a couple days whether or not the decision passes. I have no problem with this thread moving forward until we find out how the decision ends up, but still, let me know what you want done with this thread.

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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    While there's a fundamental procedural bug in both this and the abolition thread (due to the Constitution not being updated), since Mak has shown beyond doubt that those are Curial awards, I don't see the need anymore to lock or postpone either of the two. If the abolition passes, then this thread will become invalid, if not, it could be moved to vote accordingly to the usual procedure.

    It also does not make sense to update the Constitution before the abolition vote ends, we just need to have a bit of patience, for once
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Cheers Akar. I think Flinn Sims up my sentiment on the matter. Also, since the award is valid and the description also, you could technically go with a minor formattive Change since the procedure would be similar to other curial awards. Well, that would be my suggestion anyways.


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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Very well! After much confusion things shall proceed as they are until the results of the abolition decision are in.

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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    As you mentioned previously Aik, this could go to pretty much every modder that ever released a, thing. If keeping the curia active and seemingly busy is the goal, fair enough. I imagine AL could automate this, given a list.

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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    So, according to the failed abolition poll, I think we can continue here.

    Are the previous supporters still in support of Withwnar?


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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    we do.
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    Recently, Tsardoms and TGC look also very good. Read my opinions on the other mods here.
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Support.

    Do you want this moved to voted, Aikanar?

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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Support as well, Witty is a heck of a modder
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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Quote Originally Posted by Akar View Post
    Support.

    Do you want this moved to voted, Aikanar?
    Thank-you for asking. I would like to leave this open till saturday, so that people have time if anyobdy would like to rise a concern still (I doubt that) and then I would like to ask you to move it to vote on Sunday, if that is okay with you?

    Cheers.


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    Default Re: [AWARD] Withwnar for Legio 501st Modder (Gold)

    Absolutely.

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