Coronavirus as a special test for all humanity (philosophical article)

[Heathen Hammer]

Wealth heir

All members of US ruling class are wealth heirs, none of them are self-made. At least Trump's family fortune came from building housing and not from warfare and human rights abuse like it is with the rest of the American ruling class.

[basics]

conon394,

So, real estate is not a business?

Companies who had moved to other countries were coming back.

Having to pay America its fair share in trading didn't make them laugh at all.

A strong Israel means a more secure middle-east and a good ally to have. This Trump did.

Snort away because your friend Biden is going to make it harder.

The new wall was working as the border Agencies attested but then lefties won't accept that.

Fantasy world eh? What I wrote is quite true and the world knows it.

[conon394]

Seems like a winding road that will result in a mod ruler knuckle rap for drifting OT but I'll reply anyway.

So, real estate is not a business?

In many cases yes, or it can be a grift. Thing is you ask yourself aside from his father's money what real estate has Trump started and not failed on his own? I don't say exhaustive, but Trump Vodka, Steaks, Charity, Airline, Sports team, University, Casinos - all failures (or strait up con jobs). What's left TV handlers creating an image for him that as a good griffter he turned into a marketing ploy that is and remains mostly a name sold to somebody else to run a property.

Companies who had moved to other countries were coming back.

I like a source, or reference

Having to pay America its fair share in trading didn't make them laugh at all.

Who are you talking about I unclear

A strong Israel means a more secure middle-east and a good ally to have. This Trump did.

Not sure how he made Israel any stronger than it was before - please provide some points. Let's see my family almost lost our house do to the down turn caused the Arab oil embargo because we backed Israel. I can call but sure my old family friend who was Khe Sanh pretty sure he didn't notice any Israeli soldiers there. Can't seem like I can recall them in Iraq, or A-stan, or holding the Fuda Gap, or on the line in Korea... but we sure do spend a lot each on this grand ally that does what again?

The new wall was working as the border Agencies attested but then lefties won't accept that.

A few hundred dozen miles of wall were doing more or less nothing. Letting ICE act like Brown shirts might have helped if helped is living in a world afraid of brown people. But sucks if you needed that farm labor. You have worked in a farm feil in say Iowa summer right so you know what a massively not appealing job that is. in every possible way and unless Americans want to pay a lot more for a grocery bill it is not going to employing Americans who are not new potential and desperate ones.

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conon394,

Of course he must have had failures but his successes are far greater.

Quote, " 28 Jun 2018 — The news came shortly after the Trump Administration announced safeguard tariffs on large imported residential washing machines, a move ...
People also ask
Which companies came back to America?
Which manufacturers are bringing the most jobs back to America?

Apple. Total jobs reshored: 22,200.
General Motors. Total jobs reshored: 12,988. ...
Boeing. Total jobs reshored: 7,725. ...
Ford. Total jobs reshored: 4,200. ...
Intel. Total jobs reshored: 4,000. ...
Dow Chemical. Total jobs reshored: 2,900. ...
General Electric. ...
Whirlpool. ...

For a start he had NATO countries pay their dues properly, had China and others balance up the imbalance in trade.

quote, " The UAE thus became the third Arab country, after Egypt in 1979 and Jordan in 1994, to agree to formally normalize its relationship with Israel, as well as the first Persian Gulf country to do so. See WIKI for evidence of Saudi-Israeli relations. The most hostile to Israel's very existence remains Iran and Iraq in that area although it has many enemies also in the far East and Africa. So, a strong Israel is important as it is the only maority Jewish country in the world.

Today illegal immigration is at an all time high and had the Dems helped get the wall finished that obviously wouldn't be the case. But then that wouldn't have helped their voting agenda if illegals were properly documented and so to guarantee many illegal votes they don't want a wall. The whole thing at the border is a complete mess thanks to a corrupted election result that let Biden win.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

For sure he liked the ladies just like any other man and with his power and money perhaps a target for many women.

I love the line, where you excuse Trump the horny permanent women molester as poor victim of money and power greedy women.

1000s of raped women have already heard this in court:

"Why have you worn this sexy cloths or go at night to those clubs?"

I guess you have never heard of his boasting in his sextape audio?

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I love the line, where you excuse Trump the horny permanent women molester as poor victim of money and power greedy women.

1000s of raped women have already heard this in court:

"Why have you worn this sexy cloths or go at night to those clubs?"

I guess you have never heard of his boasting in his sextape audio?

Morticia lunia Bruti,

It may seem strange to you that I was brought up to respect women so I am not excusing Trump for any misdemenours at all. He certainly is no victim as attraction works both ways as both women and me can attestify to. Wealth, fame and power are an attraction which so often is abused on both sides of the sexes. I'm afraid it has been par for the course throughout history with women being accounted the worst treated yet there have been men accused of rape when that was not the case. That said my defence of Trump is primarily his being a good President of the United States which he was and nothing to do with his personal life of which I know very little about.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

I don't think he was a good president. But i'm a little surprised , that especially US or UK evangelical christs are closing both eyes for his immoral personal life.

I'm specially thinking on this one audio tape, where he is boasting, that he can grap every women, even married, on her ..... because he is rich and famous.

I can't think on a more immorally person for a public office.

[basics]

I don't think he was a good president. But i'm a little surprised , that especially US or UK evangelical christs are closing both eyes for his immoral personal life.

I'm specially thinking on this one audio tape, where he is boasting, that he can grap every women, even married, on her ..... because he is rich and famous.

I can't think on a more immorally person for a public office.

Morticia lunia Bruti,

It's funny you saying that since men like Moses, a murderer, David, a murderer, were chosen by God to lead their people. So, as God institutes the jobs of men look at JFK, a serial adulterer and Biden a serial groper as well as milkng millions from the American taxpayer and not forgetting dear ole Bill, " I did not have sex with that woman," Clinton never mind his corrupt wife Hillary who milked millions out of Haiti so it was that God put Trump into the Presidency where he definitely did a better job than all the others put together.

If you were a man you would know that that is how most men behave when the subject of women is brought up. I have lived around them for many years now yet personally I never indulged myself so that I could look at any ex and not be accused of stupid remarks I had made about her. There isn't a class of man who doesn't indulge in bragging and so yes, Trump was stupid being caught on tape doing so. I have never heard of it or heard it so I assume it is genuine?

Now concerning public office the chances are that most who take it up are sinners of some sort or type so you gets what you vote for.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

It is on Youtube, but here is an link to an transcript by the NYT:

Attention! Strong sexualized language.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/u...ranscript.html

[Cyclops]

Trump is unchristian filth. I don't think any Christian in their right mind could support him, especially when he sent an armed mob to "get" Mike Pence, who is acknowledged as a Christian leader.

[Heathen Hammer]

Yeah Trump totally did that, shortly after he drained a refugee baby of its lifeforce.

[basics]

Trump is unchristian filth. I don't think any Christian in their right mind could support him, especially when he sent an armed mob to "get" Mike Pence, who is acknowledged as a Christian leader.

Cyclops,

You know the mind of Trump eh? That incident is not what Fox News tells.

Heathen Hammer

So, Trump personally killed a refugee child? Please explain.

Perhaps the two of you can also explain why you are dead silent on the previous Presidents that I mentioned?

[Akar]

Cyclops,

You know the mind of Trump eh? That incident is not what Fox News tells.

lmao

[Cyclops]

Cyclops,

You know the mind of Trump eh?

Trump sent a mob into the Capitol while Pence was overseeing the confirmation of the election results. His slogan was "stop the steal", which was done by breaking into the highest asembly of the Republic and murdering a security officer. Pence himself criticised the mobs action as illegal and Trumps pleas to overturn the election as unconstitutional.

That incident is not what Fox News tells.

I am an Australian and we have known the Murdoch family for generations. His newspapers are known as filthy lying rags, his wealth built on page 3 boobies and his dynasty was founded by lying about Gallipoli.

Please don't quote Mr Murdoch for truth.

Just a quick question. Pence the Christian says Trump lost the election. Trump the whoremonger says he won. Who do you believe?

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Cyclops,

I believe that Pence accepted the result because there was nothing constitutionally anyone could do about it, not because it wasn't rigged which it was as I have already said. Not all the Murdoch press had boobs in it nor does Fox News. If anything here in Britain his papers were very much working class leftwing orientated and if anything it was from Labour supporting people that he made his money. That's where the demand for boobs was.

[Cyclops]

Cyclops,

I believe that Pence accepted the result because there was nothing constitutionally anyone could do about it, not because it wasn't rigged which it was as I have already said.

...sorry mate you've completely lost me. Good luck.

Not all the Murdoch press had boobs in it nor does Fox News. If anything here in Britain his papers were very much working class leftwing orientated and if anything it was from Labour supporting people that he made his money. That's where the demand for boobs was.

oh well.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

Murdoch is populist at best, not left wing orientated.

If it was left wing, it would have themes like rising rents, but stagnating wages, gap in paying between women and men although doing the same work, wealth increase for upperclass, stagnating wealth for working class, dwindling middle class.

Murdoch press: evil muslims, evil immigrants, socialism = communism, US, UK über allem versus EU, Sovietunion 2.0.

[Heathen Hammer]

All corporate "free press" are just propaganda companies, and only a small minority of population actually finds mainstream media credible.
Populism is more like a battering ram, which is necessary to bring down the elites' "fortress". Whether its a cross, rainbow, crescent, hammer & sickle or some kind of sunwheel drawn on it is irrelevant, the point is to bring down the gates and remove the current financial upper crust from positions of wealth and power, which would ultimately benefit both West and the rest of the world.

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Heathen Hammer,

The world of finance doesn't work that way as many or most who have tried it are now turned back to what they rebelled against, why? Because in the end man is a greedy animal and it's these animals who make a country prosperous and stable. Innovation is the key and in which one doesn't have to be rich to create something that has a demand as the IT industry has proved. People don't have a right to be rich, nor do they have a right to anyone elses money. What they have a right to is get a job and earn your bread whilst also seeking better opportunities which could make you better off.

[Heathen Hammer]

I disagree. Modern "system" on which the world is built on is barely a few centuries old. If it came to be, then it can be removed. In the end, "modern way of living" is simply just a few bankers, tech oligarchs and corporate CEOs being parasites over everyone else. Privately owned business ventures aren't a problem, but vile monstrosities like Blackrock, Vanguard and Raytheon certainly are and should be abolished. Rich people don't have a "right to rule", and I think in order to achieve some real progress we need to look into wisdom of our ancestors, where finance class typically belonged to separate caste from rulers and could exert very minimal influence on politics.