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    Default New Patch 2.0.2

    Since we have had nothing to really talk about in a while and I know many have been disappointed in the Remaster I hope this can turn your eyes and ears and give you some good news after so long.

    https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-...tch-202-notes/


    It looks very extensive and I particularly am interested in the merged features of all 3 Rome 1 games into one for the base game. Should open up a lot for mods.

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    How come nobody's saying anything about the infinite number of unit entries and regions in the campaign map? that alone is a massive milestone.
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirlion View Post
    How come nobody's saying anything about the infinite number of unit entries and regions in the campaign map? that alone is a massive milestone.
    yea thats wild, dont think anybody expected that. have they said anything about the faction cap? is it lifted yet? will it still only be 31? either way, 31 is more than enough to properly fill out the entire map now, leaving only very few rebel settlements.

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Nice! Especially this:

    Added functionality to change tax rates within the Settlements List and the Settlement Overview panel
    Improved switching between Lists; switching from the Armies to Settlements List no longer automatically switches from the Recruitment to the Construction panel, and vice versa

    That was driving me crazy, can't wait to get home to play today :-)

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Quote Originally Posted by sashar View Post
    yea thats wild, dont think anybody expected that. have they said anything about the faction cap? is it lifted yet? will it still only be 31? either way, 31 is more than enough to properly fill out the entire map now, leaving only very few rebel settlements.
    Someone from Feral has said on the Total War Discord that an increase of the faction limit will be included in another patch.

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Does someone have the code for the beta patch?

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Code not required just click on down arrow ..Steam library/ RR/ properties/ betas


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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Great stuff. Hope Feral puts all effort in lifting the faction limit now

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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Im really curious about this feature:

    Added a new building bonus that allows adding increasing a settlement’s construction and recruitment points.

    Does this mean we can enable settlements to recruit more than one unit at the time or construct more than one building at the time ?

    I imagine we would need to add the effect to a specific building in export_descr_buildings but they dont specify the name of the effect
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    It seems is exactly that, a feature I have years longing.

    Anyone knows were the mod documentation is?
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Baal View Post
    It seems is exactly that, a feature I have years longing.

    Anyone knows were the mod documentation is?
    Feral have opened their Github here
    https://github.com/FeralInteractive/romeremastered
    which has info and tools and stuff

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    From the page:

    • extra_construction_points [bonus] - NEW for RR Allows you to give addional construction points to a settlment via a building modifier. You can define the bonus in terms of turns.

    So it seems is just faster building, no more slots. Such a shame
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    I believe I have good news.
    While the documentation sugests (extra_construction_points and extra_recruitment_points would simply subtract a said amout of turns to construction or recruitment and make it faster ) in fact Im not sure if thats what it does!

    I've just tested it myself by adding the following to the main building chain for culture ex: governors_house, governors_villa, governors_palace etc :

    Code:
    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
    Like this:

    Code:
    building core_building
    {
        icon government
        levels governors_house governors_villa governors_palace proconsuls_palace imperial_palace 
        {
            governors_house requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } 
            {
                capability
                {
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { spain, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant briton"  0  requires factions { britons, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant dacian"  0  requires factions { dacia, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant gaul"  0  requires factions { gauls, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant german"  0  requires factions { germans, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant scythian"  0  requires factions { scythia, } 
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    recruit "east peasant"  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    recruit "egyptian peasant"  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    recruit "greek peasant"  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    recruit "roman peasant"  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
                }
                construction  1 
                cost  400 
                settlement_min village
                upgrades
                {
                    governors_villa
                }
            }
            governors_villa requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } 
            {
                capability
                {
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { spain, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant briton"  0  requires factions { britons, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant dacian"  0  requires factions { dacia, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant gaul"  0  requires factions { gauls, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant german"  0  requires factions { germans, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant scythian"  0  requires factions { scythia, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    recruit "east peasant"  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    recruit "egyptian peasant"  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    recruit "greek peasant"  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    recruit "roman peasant"  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
    
                }
                construction  2 
                cost  800 
                settlement_min town
                upgrades
                {
                    governors_palace
                }
            }
            governors_palace requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } 
            {
                capability
                {
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { spain, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant briton"  0  requires factions { britons, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant dacian"  0  requires factions { dacia, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant gaul"  0  requires factions { gauls, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant german"  0  requires factions { germans, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant scythian"  0  requires factions { scythia, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    recruit "east peasant"  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    recruit "egyptian peasant"  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    recruit "greek peasant"  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    recruit "roman peasant"  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    upgrade_bodyguard 1 requires factions { barbarian, }
                    happiness_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } and remastered_only
                    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
                }
                construction  3 
                cost  1600 
                settlement_min large_town
                upgrades
                {
                    proconsuls_palace
                }
            }
            proconsuls_palace requires factions { carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } 
            {
                capability
                {
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { spain, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant briton"  0  requires factions { britons, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant dacian"  0  requires factions { dacia, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant gaul"  0  requires factions { gauls, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant german"  0  requires factions { germans, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant scythian"  0  requires factions { scythia, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    recruit "east peasant"  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    recruit "egyptian peasant"  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    recruit "greek peasant"  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    recruit "roman peasant"  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    upgrade_bodyguard 1 requires factions { barbarian, }
                    happiness_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } and remastered_only
                    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
                }
                construction  4 
                cost  3200 
                settlement_min city
                upgrades
                {
                    imperial_palace
                }
            }
            imperial_palace requires factions { carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } 
            {
                capability
                {
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { spain, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant briton"  0  requires factions { britons, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant dacian"  0  requires factions { dacia, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant gaul"  0  requires factions { gauls, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant german"  0  requires factions { germans, } 
                    recruit "barb peasant scythian"  0  requires factions { scythia, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                    recruit "carthaginian peasant"  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                    recruit "east peasant"  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                    recruit "egyptian peasant"  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { egyptian, } 
                    recruit "greek peasant"  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { greek, } 
                    recruit "roman peasant"  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, } 
                    recruit "roman praetorian cohort i"  0  requires factions { roman, }  and marian_reforms 
                    upgrade_bodyguard 1
                    happiness_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } and remastered_only
                    extra_recruitment_points  bonus 1 requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
                }
                construction  6 
                cost  6400 
                settlement_min large_city
                upgrades
                {
                }
            }
        }
        plugins 
        {
        }
    }
    This basically makes each level of the main settlement building to add a single extra recruitemet slot, allowing me to recruit 2 units (that would normaly take a turn to recruir each) simultaneously !

    Here Im trying to recruit 3 units that take 1 turn to recruit each:
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    Then I click next turn and:
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    As we can see 2 units were recruited at the same time but theres still one left.

    I need to do further testing to be 100% sure but if true this is HUGE, I've also been waiting for this feature for so long! This will allow to considerably speed up the gameplay, specially with building construction.
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    This means big cities could plow through large monuments and building projects while also being able to build small stuff if required.

    BUT it seems it just speeds up the recruitment/building. Try with two units that require more than one turn. I bet you'll only get each one one turn faster, so while it migth simulate multiple recruitment for units that requires one turn the rest of the mechanics is just the same.
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Baal View Post
    This means big cities could plow through large monuments and building projects while also being able to build small stuff if required.

    BUT it seems it just speeds up the recruitment/building. Try with two units that require more than one turn. I bet you'll only get each one one turn faster, so while it migth simulate multiple recruitment for units that requires one turn the rest of the mechanics is just the same.
    Unfortunately that does seem to be the case, what a weird system .

    If you have a settlement with 3 recruitment points, you can recruit 3 units that take 1 turn to build each BUT, if you try to recruit 2 elephants that take 2 turns each, the game will finish the recruitment of the first unit and make half progress with the second one. Additionally you could recruit an elephant unit + a unit of spearman.

    Its not very intuitive and I hope they can change this effect to grant recruitment/construction slots instead and if possible, create a different effect to reduce turn "cost".
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    Default Re: New Patch 2.0.2

    I've been mostly critical of Feral so far, but honestly, this all seems very good, better than the usual CA patches at least. I especially like that features of expansions can be integrated into the base campaign. Great to see them working on mod support and capabilities, they got their priorities right on that, I'd be very happy if they expose the battle AI for modding, but I guess the CA wouldn't want that. That said, the biggest issue goes unfixed. I appreciate the work on the UI, but I don't think the UI can be fixed in its current iteration. It requires a redesign that's more suitable for PC, rather than the mobile-focused one that we currently have.

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    Well, is nice to have that recruitment/building turn discount effect. More slots would have been better in my book. Maybe latter they will do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT_ReVoLuTioN View Post
    Unfortunately that does seem to be the case, what a weird system .

    If you have a settlement with 3 recruitment points, you can recruit 3 units that take 1 turn to build each BUT, if you try to recruit 2 elephants that take 2 turns each, the game will finish the recruitment of the first unit and make half progress with the second one. Additionally you could recruit an elephant unit + a unit of spearman.

    Its not very intuitive and I hope they can change this effect to grant recruitment/construction slots instead and if possible, create a different effect to reduce turn "cost".
    The fact we even have the ability to recruit multiple units in a turn at all is huge and opens the door to more development in the future. If you talk with Feral about this on one of the Discords they would certainly try to help out with this.

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    In med 2 you could recruit more than one unit at the time, as in multiple slots. They are using med 2 engine, or recreating it from the rome one... so it should not be that hard, at least at first glance.

    What med 2 never had was multiple building slots, which meant a huge cities were stuck in nonsensical things like unable to start two building projects at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balparmak View Post
    I've been mostly critical of Feral so far, but honestly, this all seems very good, better than the usual CA patches at least. I especially like that features of expansions can be integrated into the base campaign. Great to see them working on mod support and capabilities, they got their priorities right on that, I'd be very happy if they expose the battle AI for modding, but I guess the CA wouldn't want that. That said, the biggest issue goes unfixed. I appreciate the work on the UI, but I don't think the UI can be fixed in its current iteration. It requires a redesign that's more suitable for PC, rather than the mobile-focused one that we currently have.
    Yes, to be clear massive credits to them for actually trying to adress this issue and for this patch overall. its just a shame we are not quite there yet.

    I might try to get in touch in them via discord if possible, Im very curious to find out if they can something do about this.
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