EB 2 In-Depth Unit Analyses

[eyelurker]

Seeing how the latest patch brought changes regardingly lethality, how do both the Germanic and Lugiian clubmen fare in combat?

My experience using them has been a quite dissapointing due to the fact they are unable to actually perform well as anti-armor units. Especially dire since both the Sweboz and Lugii factions are dominated with lightly armored units that struggle against their far more armored neighbors.

Interesting as i felt that all unit are dealing somewhat lackluster damage except for cavalry with powerful charge.

You should be killing your enemy by routing them right?

[realm56]

A public annoncement from the editorial team:

Just a gentle reminder that voting for Round 9 will end tomorrow, but do not fret! We have many more units to cover and the current analyses will be refined according to your feedback!

Link to poll: https://strawpoll.com/2o2vr2rhj

As a show of our ambition, here is a sneak peak of some the units that we really hope to cover over the next few months:

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We'll let you in on a little secret, we have already done analyses for about a ninth of the entire unit roster in Europa Barbarorum 2, just keep voting if you want us to keep them coming! We may even release an early present if we get lots of votes in!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 9 of the In-Depth Unit Analysis has been completed and closed, voting for Round 10 is now active!

This time, we have a tie, the Brateres Coso and Walidoz Knabaniz are tied for first place!


You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This time, we present the following message:





You will have until the 1st of October to cast your vote!


Straw Poll Link:

https://strawpoll.com/aszwgoruh

[realm56]

Voting for Round 10 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that we have a runaway winner in the from of the Khamis!

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This week, we will have a Pyrrhic wars showcase with 2 polls open! You will have until the 15th of October to cast your vote!

Straw Poll Link:
Eperios:https://strawpoll.com/j8bwejf1e
SPQR: https://strawpoll.com/ggkhchek3


Stay tuned!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 11 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Hippeis Tarantinoi and Principes have won convincingly!

We hope that the 2 weeks we gave for you to vote did not deter you one bit! we will have more of these showdown type showcases in the future!

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This week, we take a look at the Island peoples that live their lives on own little pieces of paradise, although they may be seperated by seas and oceans, they are never truly alone!

Straw Poll Link:
https://strawpoll.com/gq577o59d

As usual, all our analyses are located in the opening post and are downloadable in PDF form.


Stay tuned!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 12 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Ileis have won this week!


You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This time we take a look at some rather reluctant fighters.

In many locations during the Hellenistic Era, there were most certainly men who willingly fought either for glory, loyalty or for gold. However, the truth remains that the bulk of most armies were mustered using men who would rather till their fields and ply their trades in the urban centres and in the rural countrysides than fight for causes that they had little to no true stake in.

You have until the 29th of October to do so.

Straw Poll Link:
https://strawpoll.com/wqh3hvs84

As usual, all our analyses are located in the opening post and are downloadable in PDF form.


Stay tuned!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 13 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Cohors Tumultaria have won this week!


You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This time, you will pick not a particular unit but a particular cultural group when, at the end of the vote, I will put out a random unit from the winning group. If a lot of people vote this time, you may find an elite unit put up for the week, if not you only get the scraps.....

The total vote thresholds are as follows:
1. Low tier unit (15 or less)
2. Mid Tier unit (between 16 and 25)
3. High Tier unit (More than 25)

You will have until the 5th of November to cast your vote!

Straw Poll Link:
https://strawpoll.com/3gj3srsdv

As usual, all our analyses are located in the opening post and are downloadable in PDF form.


Stay tuned!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 14 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Caucasian and Indian cultures have won this week with a vote total of 18. As such, Mid-tier units have been released as per the criteria.

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. We would like to dedicate this week to an animal that has been at the forefront of humanity's capacity for warfare, the horse, as such, mounted warriors will be the order of the week!

You will have until the 12th of November to cast your vote!

Straw Poll Link:
https://strawpoll.com/urdovv1eo

As usual, all our analyses are located in the opening post and are downloadable in PDF form.


Stay tuned!

[mckeen]

These are really interesting, thanks for the effort.... If I could submit a personal request, I would love to see Basternai Draugai covered. I think they are useful, but find it difficult to use them well and they often end up being a bit of a sacrificial unit for me!

[Cleitus the Pink]

In the years since EB2 has been around, there have been many a campaign guide posted in the fora detailing how a campaign should be approached, but with most only mentioning key units and their roles in passing, I want to change that. A poll will be posted with choices for which unit will have the honor of having the first of many in-depth unit analyses done for them. To start, which unit type would you like me to focus on? Is it the good, old infantry, the swift agile skirmisher or archer, or perhaps the all-mighty shock cavalry, whose charges scatters all before them?

The analyses will be laid out roughly as follows:

• Unit stats and abilities at a glance.
• Tactical Assessment
• Availability on the campaign map
• Comparisons to similar units

Voting results for the previous round:

Voting for Round 14 of the In-Depth Unit Analysis has been completed and closed and the results are out!






It appears that the Caucasian and Indian cultures have won this week with a vote total of 18. As such, Mid-tier units have been released.


Voting for the next unit:

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. We would like to dedicate this week to an animal that has been at the forefront of humanity's capacity for warfare, the horse, as such, mounted warriors will be the order of the week!

You will have until the 12th of November to cast your vote!


Straw Poll Link:

https://strawpoll.com/urdovv1eo



Completed Analyses:

Rounds 1 to 14 (30/7/2021 to 29/10/2021):
Katoikoi Thraikes
Hippeis Bosporitai
Pantodapoi
Aswar i Sakastan
Carbantoi
Amossoi
Hippeis Baktrioi
Hippotoxotai Baktrioi
Ebess Toutas
Parashim Maurim
Thureopherontes Toxotai
Triarii (Polybian)
Toghrin Ordo
Frisadruhtiz
Walidoz Knabaniz
Brateres Coso
Khamis
Hippeis Tarantinoi
Principes (Camillan)
Ilieis
Cohors Tumultaria

TEMPORARALLY REMOVED, AWAITING RERELEASE

Round 14 (29/10/21 to 5/11/21):

Ksatriya Khadgacarmadharas (Attachment 365933)
Doryphoroi Kolkhoi (Attachment 365932)

That's all for now!

Uhm why are there no links for the completed analyses section? I really wanna read those...

[realm56]

@mckeen, @Cleitus the Pink

TWC has a 10 attachment per post limit and a 10MB cap on individual uploads (These analyses take up quite a bit of space, even when compressed) and there are always room for improvement for all the analyses. So my advice is, download them as soon as they come up!

We are rather busy at the moment both in the office and in life, this rather conveniently leads on to a public announcement that we are very excited to make:

We are currently compiling the very first volume of a proper release of the Europa Barabrorum 2 In-Depth Unit Analyses with endorsement from the Devs, this volume will have around 100 units or so contained within, coming soon with the festive season!

All that we ask is your feedback and your patience!

EDIT: Past Analyses can now be downloaded via MEGA.

[mckeen]

Totally understand, thanks for the update... I look forward to reading it when released

[moisesjns]

Look forward to it! its always nice to see the units as more than just generic soldiers, (it may be a lot but if you can add some small excerpt about regular soldier life/ how they got there would add a lot to the analysis) i know its a lot when you have to do for different cultures lol,

[Tactics Mayers]

If all these of this is so that you can create a valuable compendium, may I offer a suggestion?

For units with visual armor upgrades, can you include images like these so that they can be compared and contrasted with? It's quite lovely to see the crafted models for these.

[realm56]

Voting for Round 15 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that we have a runaway winner in the from of the Aswar i Kappodakiya.

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This week, we will have another showcase in the form of one of the most promiment series of conflicts to have occured in the Hellenistic Era. It is none other than the Syrian Wars! This showcase will have 2 polls open! Who will you pick when the Ptolemaic and Seleucid empires come to blows over Syria?


You will have until the 19th of November to cast your vote!

Straw Poll Link:

Arche Seleukeia: https://strawpoll.com/1jrz52dsy
Ptolemaioi: https://strawpoll.com/ywjcydukh

Stay tuned!

[realm56]

If all these of this is so that you can create a valuable compendium, may I offer a suggestion?

For units with visual armor upgrades, can you include images like these so that they can be compared and contrasted with? It's quite lovely to see the crafted models for these.

That is a good suggestion, you may see it in some of the pictures that come with the Analyses for the full release.

Totally understand, thanks for the update... I look forward to reading it when released

Your enthusiasm has been kindly recieved

Look forward to it! its always nice to see the units as more than just generic soldiers, (it may be a lot but if you can add some small excerpt about regular soldier life/ how they got there would add a lot to the analysis) i know its a lot when you have to do for different cultures lol,

Also a very good suggestion, you may see it in some of the Analyses for the full release but not all

[Khevsur]

ColchIan Hoplites are not suitable for the Caucasus landscape. They are an Colchian warriors in hellenistic armour for general battle. For the landscape of the Caucasus - better is Colchian skrimsher/axemans with round leather shields and Colchian spearmens with similar of hittite long leather shields and short Spears . (Xenophont writes - in Colchian tribes Had leather long shields like a lasting of the leaf, also round little leather shields ) .


The most famous of the Caucasian peoples are the Iberians (now Georgians), they were deeply invaded in Asia Minor. They must include the Meskhetians (Moschoi, Mushki) and Tiberians (Tabal-Tubal), who occupied Cappadocia after the fall of the Hittite kingdom and marched from there to the Tigris region. (The same opinion is expressed by V. Georgiev from Bulgaria, Acad. Arnold Chikobava, etc.)
Edward Meyer (1855-1930) - Great German historian. Author of the five-volume book - "History of the Old World".

[realm56]

Voting for Round 16 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Kataphraktoi and Toxotai Kretes have won!

You will all now vote on the next unit that you want broken down and analyzed. This is the final round before we go on an extended break. Thus we introduce this statement:

The embers of Hellenism are fading, invaders constantly poke at her borders and her children squabble among themselves. Although the spirit of Hellas holds strong, her fortunes dip and her people and culture fade with each new year, but fortune can be a fickle thing, the Hellenes have spread their wings far and wide, perhaps a new Alexander or Leonidas can rise from the shadows and bring order where there is chaos.


You will have until the 26th of November to cast your vote!

Straw Poll Link:

https://strawpoll.com/5ox2xbczb

Stay tuned!

[realm56]

Voting for Round 17 of the In-Depth Unit Analyses has been completed and closed and the results are out! It appears that the Hoplitai Lakedaimonos have emerged triumphant! The sons of Sparta rise once more!

It is with regret that we now go on an extended break. The past few months have been a most enjoyable experience and we wish to resume writing soon, after we recharge our batteries and get our affairs in order. You just might see a special present come along this coming festive season.

Stay tuned!

[mckeen]

Are you using a different build? Fairly sure that I am playing as Epirus on R3.5 and I have the heavy version of the Hoplitai Lakedaimonos...