Tsardoms Total War - help needed with a few CTDs

**jurcek1987** · May 25, 2021, 04:03 PM

Hi guys, I'd really appreciate if anyone would be able to help with a few issues that have popped up to some users that I haven't been able to solve so far.

Unexplained CTD during AI turn, reloading the save doesn't help.

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15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0046_P_Normalise> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0053_P_Normalise_Ottoman_Christian> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083b_Update_Allies> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0084b_Update_Enemies> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0285_Update_Religion> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0093_Update_Normal_Difficulty> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0096_Increase_Global_Standing_New_Turn> fired
15:18:20.212 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0108_Update_Untrustworthy_Factions_Minor> fired
15:18:20.475 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_BATTLE_ENGAGEMENT from transgressor faction 1CA6B826 against faction 1CA71C5C
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Tsardoms_beta-1.4/data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting,,not found
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/localized.pack,data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting,,not found
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_0.pack,data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting,186
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [info] open: found data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting (from: packs/data_0.pack)
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Tsardoms_beta-1.4/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_clear.texture
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Tsardoms_beta-1.4/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_clear.texture
15:18:20.476 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/globallighting/morning_light.lighting,,,-186
15:18:20.476 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0072_T_Undeclared_Attack_Withdraw> fired
15:18:20.476 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_UNDECLARED_ATTACK_WITHDRAW from transgressor faction 1CA6B826 against faction 1CA71C5C
15:18:20.477 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0055b_T_Invasion_Flee> fired
15:18:20.477 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_FLEE_INVASION from transgressor faction 1CA71C5C against faction 1CA6B826

Then a few users have been reporting corrupt saves but it only happens to certain people. Does anyone know of possible causes to this?

A third question I have is regarding the Settlement Details screen. On the starting turn the screen looks normal but then from the second turn onwards it looks like this, with flashing icons

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One of previous members created the first versions of the campaign but he is no longer active and I can't find out how he did this. It makes the population growth jump through the roof and I'd like to remove this feature, I tried searching campaign_script and EDB for possible triggers but no luck. Any ideas?

Thank you for your time!

Regards, Jure

**Gigantus** · May 26, 2021, 08:59 PM

Crash during AI turn - appears to be connected to a battle. Lift fog of war, follow movements and when relaoding after the crash move one of the involved armies out of each range.

Flashing icon - it shouldn't be flashing, just being greyed out. It indicates changes in circumstances, hover over the icon in question and see what the description says. Could be related to the governor's abilities, eg traits\ancillaries. Try moving him out of the settlement and see if it changes things.

Corrupted saves - usually rare and often related to the size of the save. A save bloats over time with the number of characters introduced to the game but it hardly ever results in a file size that can't be loaded anymore. Quicksave before a battle (when the small window is present) can get corrupted as well.

**jurcek1987** · May 27, 2021, 02:14 PM

Thank you for replying!

The user that posted the CTD log had this to report

Originally Posted by predadan79

Can you toggle_fow, enable follow AI movement and report what happens during Genoa's turn

It is a movement of troups around/inside Zema....[/QUOTE]

As for the flashing icons, it's not the same as the greyed out icons which you see when the building is being constructed. Removing the governor has no effect. And as I said, at the start on turn 1 the info screen is normal, the flashing icons appear from the second turn onwards indefinitely. Since I've never seen anything like this in other mods, I'm guessing our member that was in charge of the modfolder before I took over did or added something, but since he's no longer active, I cannot find out directly.

**Gigantus** · June 02, 2021, 11:05 PM

I took a closer look at the icon screenshot - seems to be a memory leak issue, judging by the repeated background pattern (unless that's intentional). Typically the game will crash after a while when it starts to show 'artifacts', eg wrong symbols showing etc. Save and reload usually fixes that.

As to the pop growth - could be a change\increase in one or more of the SPF values in the descr_settlement_mechanics file.

**jurcek1987** · June 02, 2021, 11:54 PM

Which icon screenshot? I believe you're talking about the UI crash, where the buttons become distorted and then the game crashes. I fixed that, it's related to strategy.sd.xml.

From my experience the changes in descr_settlements_mechanics do not result in "flashing" icons. And it's not just the growth, as you can see it also affects order and income. Do you have any idea what is triggering it? As I said, it doesn't happen in the starting turn, it begins from the second turn onwards. And if it is descr_settlement_mechanics, which entry is doing it?

Thank you for you time!

**Gigantus** · June 03, 2021, 03:52 AM

Icon Screenshot - 2nd pic in post #1

descr_settlement_mechanics is the spot where your over the top pop growth will be located - the SPF entries. As well as order Order (SOF) and Income (SIF). Compare your settings in there with a default file's.

**jurcek1987** · June 07, 2021, 08:05 PM

Thank you kind sir!

Another CTD related to Papal States

Originally Posted by General Knob

Hello, I just ran a Milan campaign and blitzed the Papal States after they declared war on my and took all of their regions. The Papal Elections event fired and proceeds to crash the game after the cardinals vote. I noticed this happened to some other people in the thread but I don't see anything further on it, so I am posting this to ask what must can done to prevent the crash if anybody knows. I shall include the relevant portion of my game log below, thanks.

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