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    Salve Citizens,

    I have a quick question, I'm a big history nerd, and I love classical Greek History nearly as much as Roman History, so I really want to play the Peloponnesian War from the wrath of Sparta DLC, now I know you've replaced that with your Macedonian wars campaign, but I really want to play the Peloponnesian Wars, my question is if I use the submod to restore wrath of Sparta, will it work with DeI? Like Rise of the Republic, or Hannibal at the Gates, or Caesar in Gaul, will I still have all the cool DeI features like population, etc. etc? Obviously reforms are probably not happening, but with the core of the experience still be there like the other DLC's or will it be a 100% vanilla experience at that point?

    Thank you for any help you can provide.
    Achaia is the Achaean League, and the Peloponnese!

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    Your best option might be to find the last version of DeI before the Macedonian Wars updates.

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    Do you know if the wrath of Sparta campaign reverts to vanilla or if it will still play wrath of Sparta with the DeI changes? I'd hate to have to do all that, and probably wouldn't, just suck it up several hundred years later in the Macedonian wars era but man I really want to replay the Peloponnesian wars. It's a very rich period of history and I know the tactics get a bit hammer and anvily, if I can make up a word here, but it's still fun and there was some interesting military devs to play with from the era...
    Achaia is the Achaean League, and the Peloponnese!

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    I'm also a fan of the classical period. If you look on the official submod page, you can find a link to a version of Wrath of Sparta that works with DEI. (https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...ficial-Submods)

    It works, but it has its limitations. For example, because there are no reforms, the factions can recruit both Iphikratean Peltasts and reformed peltasts from the start. Athens can recruit Skiritai mercenaries from Athens, too. The Macedonian Wars campaign is fully developed and polished, as you would expect from the DEI team. WOS needs a big update if it is to be truly playable form an historical perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callicles View Post
    I'm also a fan of the classical period. If you look on the official submod page, you can find a link to a version of Wrath of Sparta that works with DEI. (https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...ficial-Submods)

    It works, but it has its limitations. For example, because there are no reforms, the factions can recruit both Iphikratean Peltasts and reformed peltasts from the start. Athens can recruit Skiritai mercenaries from Athens, too. The Macedonian Wars campaign is fully developed and polished, as you would expect from the DEI team. WOS needs a big update if it is to be truly playable form an historical perspective.
    Awesome bud, yeah that's the link to the submod which points back to wrath of sparta. I am very happy to hear at least most of it seems to work? Is that a fair assumption, or am I going to be so frustrated with it I should just stick to Macedonian wars to get my greek geek out?
    Achaia is the Achaean League, and the Peloponnese!

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    Macedonian Wars is so much better it really is no comparison, but give it a shot and see what you think. Word of advice, before you try it, write down your mod load order so you can revert back easily enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callicles View Post
    Macedonian Wars is so much better it really is no comparison, but give it a shot and see what you think. Word of advice, before you try it, write down your mod load order so you can revert back easily enough.
    I'm sure they built it up pretty nice, DeI hasn't disapointed yet, love the mod don't get me wrong, I just don't see how Philip V's losing and ever desperate gambles in the so called Macedonian wars, let alone the impostor pretending to be his kid, could possibly compare to the legendary Peloponnesian wars. I'll never understand the change of setting, other than it saved time with unit models not needing to change.
    Achaia is the Achaean League, and the Peloponnese!

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    That is exact reason for changing the setting. We would need to prepare all models and other system for it from scratch while we never wanted to work on the period. We are still heavily working on Grand Campaign so it would be ponitless to take 1-2 year long detour to work on much less popular DLC campaign in different timeframe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAM 2150 View Post
    That is exact reason for changing the setting. We would need to prepare all models and other system for it from scratch while we never wanted to work on the period. We are still heavily working on Grand Campaign so it would be ponitless to take 1-2 year long detour to work on much less popular DLC campaign in different timeframe.
    makes sense. Hopefully one day you get the bug though. Great time period, deserves a proper treatment.
    Achaia is the Achaean League, and the Peloponnese!

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