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Thread: Old Georgian Units Submod for EB II 2.35A

  1. #41

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paerisades View Post
    Just curious, what do you think, how many Georgian units should be in the mod?

    4 land units like he posted spearmen, skirmisher, swordsmen, veteran / noble sword.

    + 2 cavalry 1 skirmisher and 1 noble would be enough for me.

  2. #42

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paerisades View Post
    Just curious, what do you think, how many Georgian units should be in the mod?
    Kartvelians had shock lancers, skrimshers and archers cavalry. also had battle chariots. Kartvelians Infantry were Spearmens, Skrimshers, Archers and Slingers.

    in game is Colchian skrimshers/axemans( nort-west caucasians), Colchian hoplites, Kartvelian Skrimshers/Swordsmens. Chalybean phalanx(khaldians) and Caucasian late period shock cavalry.

    I want reworking this caucasian units According to history and archeology:
    1.in nort-west caucasians unit add iron plates square and kartvelians unit iron plate oval shields, delete hoplon shields, stay wooden square shield. add Colchian sword, delete axes.colchian axes add only add for light colchian skrimshers/axemans

    2. Kartvelians unit iron plates oval shields delete and add in north-west Caucasians unit. add new wicker and leather covered round shields -with big bronze shield boss from east georgia. delete all hellenistic helmets, helmets with horns and add new bronze plate helmets from kamarakhevi and varsimaantkari , maybe some warriors add eastern or urartian type conical helmets. add kartvelian clothes with kartvelian ornaments and colors.- Dark blue, burgundy, brown, various tones of gray. add caucasian animals fur . delete all knemids. fix wrong warriors native name-Kartvelni mehomni is wrong name, Meomarni Kartlisani is correct name.

    also fix wrong native names - kartveleni and zaneni, correct names is Kartlelni and Egriselni , chaldians correct names is Chanebi

    3.in khaldians unit add long pants and clothing for all warriors. add flax armor with wicker lower body flax ropes. unit texture is low quality-fix it

    4. in Colchian units add north-west caucasians hoplon shields, add flax armors similar khaldians.add iron scale armor. unit textures is low quality - fix it

    i think many colchian archaelogical materials is ignored, but colchian materials used for north-west caucasians unit






    also, I want add in game :

    1.early period Kartvelian Skrimshers/swordsmens cavalry.

    2. late period Kartvelian Shock lancers/swordsmen , Skrimshers/swordsmens and archers/swordsmen cavalry.

    3. early period Colchian light skrimshers/axemans .

    4. early period Kartvelian medium spearmens and light archers /axemans infantry .
    Last edited by Khevsur; January 17, 2021 at 06:57 PM.

  3. #43

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Wow! Impressive list! I agree only three unique units for a Colchian/Kartvelian it's not enough! Three cavalry and four infantry units are just fine, not too much.
    Are you making 3D models for them or you leave it to EB team?
    Just curious, since you are good in archeology you are probably have plans to extend Hellenistic roster, as well? Poor Hellenes, all of them have same slinger , archer and skrimsher units!

  4. #44

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Great stuff!!

  5. #45

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paerisades View Post
    Wow! Impressive list! I agree only three unique units for a Colchian/Kartvelian it's not enough! Three cavalry and four infantry units are just fine, not too much.
    Are you making 3D models for them or you leave it to EB team?
    Just curious, since you are good in archeology you are probably have plans to extend Hellenistic roster, as well? Poor Hellenes, all of them have same slinger , archer and skrimsher units!
    Paerisades


    I do not know 3D , I hope the team will make these units. Because historically these units are a reality.

  6. #46

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Kartvelians large Bronze Shield Boss- 29-30 cm










    IV-IIIc BC Kartvelian swordsmen infantry, with shields and Eastern conical helmet(persian or urartian type)








    Last edited by Khevsur; April 16, 2021 at 04:28 AM.

  7. #47

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    .....................................
    Last edited by Khevsur; April 16, 2021 at 04:29 AM.

  8. #48

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Colchian Warriors - Malimarephi (old colchian language ) .

    This is Colchian Warrior According to Greek chroniclers And found Colchian Weapons .

    Colchians wore conical leather helmets , similar paphlagonians. Calybes was isolated Colchian tribe,In early times Chalybes lived in pontic mountains and in South-East black sea coast area .

    also colchian Tribes tribes had Flax Armor ( Colchians were making flax , like Egyptians ) , Short Spears ( Javelins ) , Knemids , withe Bulls small Leather shields , Knives and axes. They wore felt and canvas

    Last edited by Khevsur; February 08, 2021 at 12:26 PM.

  9. #49

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    My Fast Sketch - Soan Highlander Archer






    man from Colchis IV-III century BC









    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svans#History
    Last edited by Khevsur; February 12, 2021 at 09:34 AM.

  10. #50

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    I have read a lot of information. According to ancient historians


    1.Colchis clothing is Cappadocian style, has a Paphlagonian leather helmet. they have Canvas clothing and Flax armor.


    2. The clothing of the Iberians is similar to that of the Medes and Armenians. highlander iberians have Scythian like clothing. Light infantry have furry skins and hats. They have sheep thread and Felt clothes .









    I drew the clothes. These are the colors and the ancient Georgian ornaments, follow this line




    This Is urartian man from rython , i think some iberian clothes is Very similar.


    Last edited by Khevsur; February 02, 2021 at 07:00 PM.

  11. #51

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    about georgian warrior soul


  12. #52

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    my final art Colchian Tribal Warrior - Malimarephi. According to Xenophon Anabasis and Colchian Archaeological materials

  13. #53

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    other version Colchian warrior
    Last edited by Khevsur; February 12, 2021 at 08:46 AM.

  14. #54

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    i draw new version Caucasian Iberian Warrior - Meomarni Kartlisani V-III c BC. I love europa barbarorum II


    Last edited by Khevsur; March 04, 2021 at 06:02 AM.

  15. #55

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Khevsur you schould make georgian portraits for the game!
    getting older

  16. #56

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    Quote Originally Posted by stevietheconquer View Post
    Khevsur you schould make georgian portraits for the game!
    I can draw georgian faces ( caucasian Iberian, Colchian and Khaldian ) but game Moderators do not want it. They want only photos.


  17. #57

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    well, great work anyway!
    getting older

  18. #58

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    I draw V-III c BC Iberian Warrior- Meomarni Kartlisani , With another shield.


    ,



    Silver Belt From akhalgori IV c BC- Kartli





    Silver belt From vani (Colchis) - IV c BC



    Bronze plate Helmet and 30 scm Shield Boss from Varsimaantkari V-IV c BC -Kartli







    swords IV-III c BC from Vani - georgia

    axes, knives and javelins IV-III c BC - from Kartli



    Spirit of Georgian Warriors
    Last edited by Khevsur; March 05, 2021 at 08:51 AM.

  19. #59

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    i draw new version iberian warrior V-III c BC - Meomarni Kartlisani


  20. #60

    Default Re: Old Georgia - Colchis and Iberia (information and pictures)

    iberian warrior- Meomarni Kartlisani

    Last edited by Khevsur; April 04, 2021 at 04:26 PM.

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