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Thread: Old Georgian Units Submod for EB II 2.35A

  1. #21

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    Have a close and careful look at the changelog for the new patch. You might like what it says. Take care.

    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...-35A-Changelog

  2. #22

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    Rad


    can you show me updated Kartvelian Unit screenshots?
    Last edited by Khevsur; April 09, 2020 at 03:31 PM.

  3. #23

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    I can't, I am not a member of the team. We will both have to wait for the new patch.

  4. #24

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    Kartvelian (georgian) peoples Ancient pagan symbols :


    kartvelian Tribe- Mushki (Moschoi, Meskhs ) Symbol in Anatolia.





    Kingdom Of Egrisi(Colchis) and Kingdom Of Kartli ( Iberia ) Symbol




    kura-araxes culture 4000 bc-3000 bc .Georgia
    Last edited by Khevsur; September 18, 2020 at 04:35 PM.

  5. #25

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    In ancient times Kartvelian Peoples had sheep and goats and creating High quality Felt. creating Felt clothes and hat. Colchians had flax and creating Flax clothes .

    in Georgia - bedena Tomb ( Trialeti Culture , late 3rd and early 2nd millennium BC) found old felt hat (Also Felt clothing ) similar "kakhetian hat" and "svanish hat". Georgian Used this Hats in medieval time , In very ancient times ( Trialeti culture ) and Today


    svan man with a felt hat and felt mantle

    kakhetian Felt hat











    Iberian and Colchian Hats.



    1. Iberians and Colchians felt hat From old sculpture - Vani , also Georgians used similar form hat in Medieval Times
    2. Iberians Felt Hat From bedenas Tomb ( Trialeti Culture , late 3rd and early 2nd millennium BC)
    3.Iberians and Colchians Leather Helmet , From Gomi Cup . ( also Found similar bronze helmets in Georgia- Varsimaantkari , Kamariskhevi )
    4. Iberians hair and beard style From archaeological materials
    5. Iberians and colchians felt hat From old sculpture - Vani . similar "svanish Hat"


    Old Greek authors write - Iberians had various animals leather armour ( Sheep, Goat , Bulls, Wild boar, Wolf , Bear ) and leather helmets . iberians are Best Spearmens , Horsemans , Archers . iberians have Battle chairots
    Last edited by Khevsur; September 20, 2020 at 09:52 AM.

  6. #26

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    south kartvelian warrior-Moschoi, Mushki, meskhi
    Last edited by Khevsur; September 22, 2020 at 06:43 PM.

  7. #27

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    Kartvelian cavalry I BC-I AD

    I. Gagoshidze THE IBERIAN HORSEMAN OF THE FIRST CENTURY(Summary)

    The paper is part of a monograph, “TheKingdom of Kartli (Iberia) and Rome in the 1stcent. B.C – 1st cent. A.D”, compiled in 1996-1998with the financial aid of the INTAS and dealing with the Iberian military equipment (weapons,armour, harness).The present paper is primarily based on therich archaeological collection of weapons, armourand parts of harness, obtained during the excavations of the royal palace at Dedoplis Gora,though all other relevant finds of the samechronology, coming from other regions of Georgiaat the disposal of the author, have been taken into consideration as well.Besides, 25 representations of armoured horsemen engraved on the bone plaques discovered at the royal palace of Dedoplis Gorahave been included in the study. One of theplaques even depicts the scene of combat betweenarmoured horsemen.As during the 1st cent. B.C. – 1st cent. A.D.Rome led the whole world in the military field, thepaper deals with the local finds in relation to theRoman material, as well as data provided by Graeco-Latin narrative sources.Archaeological finds corroborate thein formation of written sources, which names lances and bows as the principal weapons of the Iberians. According to the same sources, theirmilitary forces comprised both infantry andcavalry, the latter being divided into lightly andheavily armed horsemen.The Georgians used a compound bow - its ends covered with bone plates – similar to the Roman bows. But, a more advanced type of bow has beenfound at Dedoplis Gora – not only the ends, butalso the middle part of it was covered with boneplates. Bows of this type were introduced intoEurope by the Huns only in the period of the Völkerwanderung.The close contacts established by the kingdomof Iberia with nomadic tribes of the Eurasian steppes account for such early penetration of the Hunnish bow into Georgia. The Iberian state power holding tight control over the Caucasian passes not only managed to exploit nomadicmilitary forces for the political benefit of Kartli,but, to some extent, even regulated their peace fultrade with Western Anterior Asia and eastern Roman provinces. This key strategic element guaranteed the petty kingdom of Iberia its fairlyimportant place within the political scope of the superpowers of that period – Rome and Parthia.The so-called Sarmatian-type three-winged hooked arrowhead represented the only type of military arow heads in Iberia of the Early Roman period. More than 800 such arrowheads werediscovered at Dedoplis Gora. As a rule, they wereplaced in quivers with bows.The fact that along with the ordinary ironsocketed spearheads, Sarmatian spearheads withhooped sockets were found allows the author tosuggest the presence of Sarmatian warriors in the garrison guarding the royal palace of Dedoplis Gora.Spear shafts of the Iberians, like those of the Romans, ended in iron knobs.Iberian warriors used to fight with long piercing swords and unlike the Romans, woreshort daggers attached to the right thigh.The principal type of iron defensive armour inIberia was lorica squamata, though the Roman influence probably accounts for the discovery oflorica hamata at Dedoplis Gora. Unlike theRomans, the Iberians did not use metallic helmets.A fairly complete picture of harness isprovided by engraved bone plaques unearthed atDedoplis Gora. Their local origin becomes clear judging by both representations of horsemen andhorse harnesses and inscriptions engraved onsome of the plaques, done in the so-called Armaziscript, spread in Georgia. Garments of equestrians,hunched saddles, girth, reins, halter, ribbons attached to breast, horse-hair and belly, as well astheir buckles are clearly discernible. Actaully,only the following metallic details have survived:rings, buckles, bridles. It can be concluded that,apart from traditional bridles with cheek-pieces,simple, quite modern bridles were also in use in Georgia of the 1st cent. as a result of the contactswith Rome. The analysis of representations on thebone plaques proves that the Georgians were familiar with curb-bit and snaffle-bit attached tohorse together with ordinary bridle in order to haltthe horse immediately and achieve swiftmaneouvring.There were no stirrups in the 1st cent., butriders used to drive horses by spurring them,especially during the battle.Military equipment of the Iberians in the 1stcent. fully met all the requirements and standardsof that period. This, in turn, predetermined, tosome extent the further internal and internationalpolitical and military successes achieved by the kingdom of Iberia in the context of the international competition of Rome and Parthia.The most vivid example of those developments was the territorial expansion of Kartli at the expense of Albania and Armenia, as well as the fact that by the beginning of the 2nd cent. the borders of Iberia reached the Black Sea littoral.

    http://dspace.nplg.gov.ge/bitstream/...004_N13-14.pdf























    kartvelian warrior IV-III BC
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  8. #28

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    urartu-assirian type Colchian-Kuban Helmets from Georgia ( beshtasheni ) VII-V cc BC

    http://millitarch.ru/wp-content/uplo...0%B0%D0%BA.pdf








    hoplon shield from georgia

    Hoplite and Cavalry Armour In Colchis

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/v7hs0...lchis.pdf/file






    VII-IV c BC urartian type( but is not conical ) shield boss from Georgia , ureki
    shield is wicker , bronze plate covered with bronze shield boss. Found 10 pieces.




    round shield boss from georgia, vani II-I c BC


    Irakli Anchabadze - Weaponry in the Antique and Early Medieval Period Iberia-Colchis (The 7th cent. BC-7th cent. AD)


    http://www.mediafire.com/file/r3f1sm...badze.pdf/file
    Last edited by Khevsur; January 18, 2021 at 06:58 AM.

  9. #29

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaIxFpin8dQ

    Georgians have own National Ancient Battle Wrestling "Kartuli Chidaoba"


    how uload video from youtube?
    Last edited by Khevsur; October 07, 2020 at 06:47 AM.

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    Hi, Khevsur.

    To show the video you've linked to, you need to take the part of the link that comes after "v=" and put that into [youtube] tags. The code should look like this:

    [youtube]iaIxFpin8dQ[/youtube]

    and the result will be this:






  11. #31

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    my speed art - Kartvelian cavalry - Mkhedarni Kartlisani 1st AD





    in 1st century AD Kingdom of Kartli had an army- Powerful , Balanced and high morale , successfully fought against Rome and Parthia. nobles have chain mail, scale armor. infantry have leather helmets and leather furry armor.

    1.Heavy shock cavalry, Without shield
    2.Skrimshers cavalry
    3.Archers cavalry, with composite sarmatian type Bow
    4.Spearmen infantry
    5.Skrimsher infantry
    6.Archers
    7.Slingers


    My Art Kartvelian Warriors - Meomarni Kartlisani IV-III c BC



    1. Kartvelian Spearmen ( Helmet from Varsimaant Kari, Shield boss From Kamarakhevi )

    2. Kartvelian Skrimsher Warrior ( Helmet from Varsimaant Kari, Shield boss From Kamarakhevi )

    3.Kartvelian Noble Warrior ( Helmet From Kamarakevi , shield Boss From Varsimaantkari )

    4.Kartvelian Noble Warrior ( Eastern or Urartian type Bronze or Iron Conical Helmet , shield From Vani ) The ancient Georgian conical helmets are similar to the Urartian-Assyrian



    Kartvelian warrior with helmet from Kamarakhevi - Illustration from the book of historian Gela Gamkrelidze





    Last edited by Khevsur; January 08, 2021 at 11:10 AM.

  12. #32

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    My fast sketch
    Kartvelian Warrior - 1st -2 nd century AD


    albanian and iberian warrior had fur leather hats. Georgians and caucasians have this hats today.

    Georgian Writher Vazha-Pshavela



    some ancient Barbarian warriors had similar hats.


    Last edited by Khevsur; January 18, 2021 at 06:44 PM.

  13. #33

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    Ancient Georgian men's and women's jewelry





    Ancient Georgian noble men's earrings. Used on two or one ear . The ear was not shot

    Last edited by Khevsur; January 05, 2021 at 03:14 AM.

  14. #34

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    Kartvelian used this Style clothing and ornaments . this clothing is similar 1st AD on gaming plates clothing. These are ancient Georgian ornaments. Herodotus writes about it - kartvelian tribes Wear clothes painted and colorful ornaments Do not make cross ornaments on clothing. using for only hats

    this clothing is medievan times, but is similar kartvelian ancient clothing






































































    oldest kartvelian hats :



    Colchian highlanders, svan hats




    iberian hat
    Last edited by Khevsur; January 20, 2021 at 03:39 PM.

  15. #35

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    my speed art - Kartvelian cavalry - Mkhedarni Kartlisani 1st AD





    in 1st century AD Kingdom of Kartli had an army- Powerful , Balanced and high morale , successfully fought against Rome and Parthia. nobles have chain mail, scale armor. infantry have leather helmets and leather furry armor.

    1.Heavy shock cavalry, Without shield
    2.Skrimshers cavalry
    3.Archers cavalry, with composite sarmatian type Bow
    4.Spearmen infantry
    5.Skrimsher infantry
    6.Archers
    7.Slingers
    Last edited by Khevsur; April 14, 2021 at 10:10 AM.

  16. #36

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    My Art Kartvelian Warriors - Meomarni Kartlisani IV-III c BC



    1. Kartvelian Spearmen ( Helmet from Varsimaant Kari, Shield boss From Kamarakhevi )

    2. Kartvelian Skrimsher Warrior ( Helmet from Varsimaant Kari, Shield boss From Kamarakhevi )

    3.Kartvelian Noble Warrior ( Helmet From Kamarakevi , shield Boss From Varsimaantkari )

    4.Kartvelian Noble Warrior ( Eastern or Urartian type Bronze or Iron Conical Helmet , shield From Vani ) The ancient Georgian conical helmets are similar to the Urartian-Assyrian



    Kartvelian warrior with helmet from Kamarakhevi - Illustration from the book of historian Gela Gamkrelidze





    Last edited by Khevsur; March 04, 2021 at 02:40 PM.

  17. #37

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    Kartvelian Warrior - Meomarni Kartlisani (Last Edit)
    V-lll centuries BC



    Helmet and Shield is from Kamarakhevi , Georgia
    Clothes is similar Warriors Clothes from dedoflisgora and from Gomi Rython , I draw on Clothes oldest Kartvelian Ornaments
    many similar type Axes , Javelins and Swords is found in East Georgia

    Finally he is a Historically accurate , beautiful and fierce warrior -
    Last edited by Khevsur; March 12, 2021 at 08:45 AM.

  18. #38

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    PLEASE ADD THESE for Pontus and Hayastan! I love that Part of the map, And i want to see more unique units from this place. This is a place in the world, that we never get to see much of in any other games, or even TV / movies.

  19. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by moisesjns View Post
    PLEASE ADD THESE for Pontus and Hayastan! I love that Part of the map, And i want to see more unique units from this place. This is a place in the world, that we never get to see much of in any other games, or even TV / movies.
    yes , I protect historical accuracy

  20. #40

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    Just curious, what do you think, how many Georgian units should be in the mod?

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