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    Default [Submod] Etruscan Units

    Hey, since I'm a big fan of the etruscans in general but their roster in DeI is a bit lacking I decided to take matters into my own hands and make a few new units.

    This is not really historical, as about half of the units are 'late' ones that are more of a ' what if Rome never conquered Rasenna ' thing.
    I took some inspiration from this guy who has some sources too for anyone who is interested and speaks italian:
    https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/146479/etruscan-league-proposal-for-an-accurate-army-re-styling

    So here are the units:

    Two-handed axemen, which were historically tasked with striking the spears of the enemy hoplite formation. By the start time of DeI they were not in use anymore but I think they're a fun addition, especially with the rosters present in italy.
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    Reformed etruscan swordsmen; a 'what if'-unit. Similar to the AOR unit in italy but with more etruscan equipment/looks.
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    Etruscan mounted skirmishers; Basically Hippakontistai, just with etruscan equipment/looks.
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    Etruscan citizen cavalry; similar to their greek counterpart but equipped with a few javelins like the Etruscan noble cav.
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    Etruscan axemen; an alternative to the ensiferi italici. Similar stats but a bit more offensively oriented.
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    Reformed etruscan axemen; an alternative to the reformed etruscan swordsmen. Similar stats again but less disciplined and more offensive.
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    The mod will need All Factions Playable:
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=370817535

    There's two versions:
    One to use with just DeI and AFP 4TPY:
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2260140270

    and one with all costs scaled to Alternative Economy levels:

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2252316070

    You can find Alternative Economy here:
    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...onomy-versions

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    Default Re: [Submod] Etruscan Units

    I think Etruscans have much more potential to them since they are supposed to die by 10 turns in the game u can make a lot of what if changes to them. Since they were Greek admirers and adopted Greek tactics maybe push them more towards it. Idk about how much they used axe (I just heard swords and spear were common) but maybe instead of reformed axeman, why not thueros axemen? I am sure if they had lived long enough they would have even copied that. Similarly a pike unit after reforms. Then u can maybe reform thier aristocratic cav to maybe a lance cav. Chariots were commonly used by them but generally were used for travel and games, but they eventually started employing them in their army. U can also reform their nobel spears to noble hoplite guard. They have a lot more potential to them I think and u can take a lot liberties again because they always die as soon as the game starts (even historically)

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    Hey, thanks for the ideas!
    Axemen are actually mentionend in every single text I found about the etruscan miltary, so I think they should definitely have them. Maybe the late axemen could be changed to be an armored version of the two-handed axemen, since I've read a lot about "armored axemen with two-handed axes".
    I don't want to give the thureos to any unit since it was not really used in (northern) italy from what I can tell. The scutum was invented somewhere in italy long before the romans adopted it so I think it makes more sense to use that.

    Chariots were not used in warfare anymore at the period of DeI, and I just don't think they work that well in Rome 2

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    Again I would say, the roster should be generic till theuros reform but should be completely what if post reforms and u will have to imagine as if the player as conquered Italy till now (no need to worry about ai, ai Etruscans don't stay more than 10 turns) so it's no longer about northern Italy. The main advantage of theuros was it was really cheap while light weight and gave better protection from the smaller Italian shield which would be really good for an offensive axeman. And Etruscans were become more Hellenistic day by day during this time so makes sense to push them towards more Greek stuff

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    Cool mod, giving etruscans two handed axes is just enough to make them feel distinct amidst their surroundings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livin La Vida Loca View Post
    Cool mod, giving etruscans two handed axes is just enough to make them feel distinct amidst their surroundings.
    Thanks! If you play the etruscans also check out my newer mod which combines the new units and new visuals for the old units:
    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2471025857

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    A superb mod, just started a campaign yesterday!
    Love your visuals, DEI team should integrate the new roster into their next update.

    Etruria is small but unique in culture and a very challenging faction to play!
    Last edited by Romaion; June 15, 2021 at 09:23 AM.


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    Default Re: [Submod] Etruscan Units

    Quote Originally Posted by Romaion View Post
    A superb mod, just started a campaign yesterday!
    Love your visuals, DEI team should integrate the new roster into their next update.

    Etruria is small but unique in culture and a very challenging faction to play!
    Thanks! Check out my newer mod that has everything in one place.
    I'm not updating the older versions anymore!

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2471025857

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    Default Re: [Submod] Etruscan Units

    I already got your all in one Mod!


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    Hi! Great work, your sabmod was asked to translate for Russian-speaking players Divide et Impera! I have several questions:
    - is it necessary to install your sabmods "Divide et Impera - Etruscan Expansion Pack" and "Divide et Impera - Etruscan Units" simultaneously (or subscribe to them on Steam)?
    - in your post you wrote that you will not update old versions of the sabmod - this applies to "Divide et Impera - Etruscan Expansion Pack" or "Divide et Impera - Etruscan Units"?

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