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    Default Question for EBII Historians: Origins of Certain Units/Cultures?

    The export_descr_units.txt file has "internal" names of every unit. Some of them imply a certain historical origin for them, three of which surprised me.

    Histro-Venetic Cavalry: illyrian cavalry histro venetic
    Histro-Venetic Warriors: italic infantry histro venetic
    Sardinian Warriors: italic infantry sardinian

    A quick google search yielded similar confusion. Apparently contemporary historians disputed on the origins of the Veneti - they were thought to be Italian, Illyrian, or even Celtic in origin. The Sardinians were less ambiguous: they seemed to be a unique people with trade contacts with Greeks, Phoenicians, and Italians. Of course in this forum the best source of truth are EBII historians - what are y'all's takes on the history and origins of Venetians and Sardinians?

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    Default Re: Question for EBII Historians: Origins of Certain Units/Cultures?

    It might mean only the geographical location, not necessarily tribal or ethnic affiliation. Probably they were a mix between Italian and Celtic peoples, in fact, but their language is related to Latin. Gaulish and Latin were actually quite close and came from the same theoretical Italo-Celtic branch, so we shouldn't discard a mix between both peoples.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Default Re: Question for EBII Historians: Origins of Certain Units/Cultures?

    The internal names of units are just labels. Most of the time it's about making them as simple as possible, so that mistakes aren't made in their use from complex names.

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