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    Default Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    The cavalry models of Hungarian Kingdom are very nice, just some of them not full historical.
    I share to you some images and screenshoots of nonreleased cavalry from the Magyar Mod. The models made by Dome. If anyone want make new units, just should copy them.


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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Could you be more accurate how they are not historical? Please provide contemporary manuscript pictures, statues or historical articles.

    Work of Dome is great but is not contemporary author but modern recreation, so we cannot use it as reference, and besides Magyar mod did not gave us their mounted units to use anyway.
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    We would have loved to get domes cavalry units but sadly they were never released.

    However, all our hungarian cavalry units are mostly based on the above units you posted. We do not have the modelling skills of dome and we would welcome anyone that does.

    Our hussars, szekely horse archers, cumans look pretty much the same as the ones you posted. So not sure how you could say ours are not historical since they look very similar.

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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post
    Could you be more accurate how they are not historical? Please provide contemporary manuscript pictures, statues or historical articles.

    Work of Dome is great but is not contemporary author but modern recreation, so we cannot use it as reference, and besides Magyar mod did not gave us their mounted units to use anyway.
    For example the hussar models not fit in the era, they are fit on second half of XVI. century. The Szekely cavary shuold use composite bow, and lance not turkish sabre. The gothic armoured Baronial Cavalry should not use shield, and textil horse barding, instead some horse armour. etc.
    I understand you. Soon I'm starting collect pictures of contemporary resources. Until then I share some another model pictures and illustrations, just for enjoy.
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    Last edited by szikelkun; February 15, 2021 at 04:33 PM.
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    This is great but we do not have access to units of Dome. We asked they said no. Its their right to do so. That means we had to do our own units. When we do units, we look at contemporary evidences. Not modern reproductions.

    for example 1488 Hungarian Black Army vs Ottomans or Bosnians - historians are not certain, likely Bosnians due to clothing, which take notice looks remarkably like hussars


    or these guardsmen of Mathias Corvin



    here again 1470 Hungarian Infantry





    so please use only contemporary pictures, made in 14th or 15th century or archeological pieces

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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    So not sure how you could say ours are not historical since they look very similar.
    The models are truly nice. I was not writing that not historical, just "not full historical".
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post
    or these guardsmen of Mathias Corvin


    The Mathias Coat of Arms is maybe original, but the guardsmen are modern paintings.
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post

    here again 1470 Hungarian Infantry


    About 1480. and the sculptor tried to present ancient roman soldiers. But sure similar to hungarian equipment.
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    I will start collecting medieval hungarian warfare sources ( photos of: weapons, frescos, altar paintings, statues, etc.), and I will read lot of describes about the topic. It is a longest work. Until I have not enough material and more knowledge, I share some historical based contemporary artistic paintings and 3D models about Hungarian Kingdom's warriors.

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    More Knights/Banderial Heavy Cavalry:
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    Coat of Arms:
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    Hungarian Hussars (1460~1530.):
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    Székely Mounted Archers (in Hunyadi era):
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Wonderful pictures! I already had the ones from the Army of King Matthias book but not the other ones. I am saving these for my personal collection. Also those 3d ones are great.
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    Default Re: Hungarian Cavalry in Tsardoms: Total War

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    Also those 3d ones are great.
    Those 3d units are maded for Battle of Kenyérmező, what is an upcoming hungarian historical animation battle movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fMH5jjDFQ
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