President Biden's first term in office

[Heathen Hammer]

We are laughing at you, not with you.

​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROK3QuKgOMI

I can predict replies with the usual sophistry about it being not what Biden really meant or with some whataboutism about Trump.

[Pontifex Maximus]

I can predict replies with the usual sophistry about it being not what Biden really meant or with some whataboutism about Trump.

Why do you refuse to take Biden at his word? Are you some sort of covid disinformation spreader??? Reported.

[PointOfViewGun]

Because I am not lying. That you disagree with me and what your own quote says, makes you wrong, not me a liar. Sorry that it hurts your feelings but Bidet messed up big time.
Now, moving on from the twisted logic presented by some posters to defend their glorious Bidet...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/desantis-...tional-schools
I need to find a grade-school level name-insult for that guy too. DeSantis just told people to not wear masks in schools. Vaccinated or not.
Unless it is a vile masterplan to deal with old people in Florida, this is insanity.
Trump was awesome in finding nicknames. Alas he hasn't found one for this idiot that hopes to be the new Trump.

The quote I presented clearly says something different from what you suggested. This really isn't rocket science.

We are laughing at you, not with you. "LeT mE RePrEaT"
​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROK3QuKgOMI
Now watch as you pivot to some other leftist cope lie "muh delta variant" or 'muh invaccinated trump supporters'. Because that is all you have left.

Not really. I'm quite capable of recognizing different statements made at different times. Biden have always been following CDC recommendations as a president. Its kinda why CDC exists in the first place. On April 27, Biden tells people that they can not wear a mask if they're outside and not in a crowd per CDC recommendation. This was not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement as alhoon made it to be. Then on the anouncement you linked to from May 14, Biden tells vaccinated people that they don't need to wear a mask, per CDC recommendation. Again, this is still not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement. This really isn't a complex issue. We don't need to eliminate our standards for people's claims to make people feel better about them.

[Coughdrop addict]

You have to understand how righties "think". Basically they have it beaten into them since early childhood that to change your mind about something is a sign of weakness and incompetence. Once something is determined by a snap judgement to be good or bad, true or false, it must remain that way forever regardless of any changing circumstances or new information. So they see Biden, Fauci, and anyone else changing their minds about masks as the pandemic runs it's course to mean they are lying and always have been.

If it were up to them we'd be trying to treat covid through bloodletting to balance our humors.

[antaeus]

At this point I think this thread has dissolved into partisan banter with no actual substance. Sharpen up people...

[Heathen Hammer]

I can predict replies with the usual sophistry about it being not what Biden really meant or with some whataboutism about Trump.

Aaaaand called it:

Not really. I'm quite capable of recognizing different statements made at different times. Biden have always been following CDC recommendations as a president. Its kinda why CDC exists in the first place. On April 27, Biden tells people that they can not wear a mask if they're outside and not in a crowd per CDC recommendation. This was not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement as alhoon made it to be. Then on the anouncement you linked to from May 14, Biden tells vaccinated people that they don't need to wear a mask, per CDC recommendation. Again, this is still not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement. This really isn't a complex issue. We don't need to eliminate our standards for people's claims to make people feel better about them.

[PointOfViewGun]

Aaaaand called it:

Except its not sophistry nor a difference of What Biden meant nor whataboutism. It's quite simple, in fact, which is what makes your attempt ridiculous. What's the logic behind you defying basic English comprehension to throw a jab at Biden like this?

[Heathen Hammer]

What's with Democrat supporters deifying a semi-senile geriatric bureaucrat? Is it so hard to admit that he lied? All the mental gymnastics in pretending that it was something else just make his supporters look like a religious cult.

[PointOfViewGun]

What's with Democrat supporters deifying a semi-senile geriatric bureaucrat? Is it so hard to admit that he lied? All the mental gymnastics in pretending that it was something else just make his supporters look like a religious cult.

We're not even discussing whether Biden lied or not. In your attempt to deflect from being exposed of making stupid arguments you have wondered off by a long shot. Please come land back on planet Earth.

[irontaino]

What's with Democrat supporters deifying a semi-senile geriatric bureaucrat? Is it so hard to admit that he lied? All the mental gymnastics in pretending that it was something else just make his supporters look like a religious cult.

The lack of self-awareness is astounding.

[alhoon]

The quote I presented clearly says something different from what you suggested. This really isn't rocket science.




Not really. I'm quite capable of recognizing different statements made at different times. Biden have always been following CDC recommendations as a president. Its kinda why CDC exists in the first place. On April 27, Biden tells people that they can not wear a mask if they're outside and not in a crowd per CDC recommendation. This was not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement as alhoon made it to be. Then on the anouncement you linked to from May 14, Biden tells vaccinated people that they don't need to wear a mask, per CDC recommendation. Again, this is still not a blanket "you no longer need to wear a mask" announcement. This really isn't a complex issue. We don't need to eliminate our standards for people's claims to make people feel better about them.

DLS, you're arguing that "Biden tells vaccinated people that they don't need to wear a mask" doesn't mean "Biden tells vaccinated people that they don't need to wear a mask".
I didn't say Bidet said unvaccinated people didn't need to wear a mask, I said Bidet, in his senile foolishness, told vaccinated people they don't need to wear a mask, dooming thousands of people to death.

[Coughdrop addict]

The lack of self-awareness is astounding.

Did you expect more from the people who worship the guy who profited $300 million off "Stop the steal" and threw them under the bus without a second thought on Jan 6?

[Stario]

I didn't say Bidet said unvaccinated people didn't need to wear a mask, I said Bidet, in his senile foolishness, told vaccinated people they don't need to wear a mask, dooming thousands of people to death.

Remember Kids, Bidet also said he got into the senate 180 years ago & that he has been vice president for 10 years...Bidet's cognitive decline is worrying, all bets are now on as to when he will be replaced by Kamala Harris!?

[alhoon]

Remember Kids, Bidet also said he got into the senate 180 years ago & that he has been vice president for 10 years...Bidet's cognitive decline is worrying, all bets are now on as to when he will be replaced by Kamala Harris!?

Well, as Trump showed us the President doesn't have too much power inside the USA. Governors, state legislatures + senate, house, Supreme Court divide the power between them and the PotUS. It is only in the foreign stuff that the PotUS can do a lot.
So, I don't think Kamala Harris will replace him. I think she will get elected after him. And I can't wait to see Hillary's face when she campaigns for Kamala Harris to be the first woman president.

[Stario]

So, I don't think Kamala Harris will replace him. I think she will get elected after him. And I can't wait to see Hillary's face when she campaigns for Kamala Harris to be the first woman president.

Is this the same Kamela Harris that (when we look at her record as a prosecutor):

1. put over 1,500 people in prison for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana;

2. the same Kamela Harris that blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so; and

3. the same Kamela Harris that kept people in prison beyond their sentences in order to use them as cheap labour for the state of California...

[Heathen Hammer]

Is this the same Kamela Harris that (when we look at her record as a prosecutor):

1. put over 1,500 people in prison for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana;

2. the same Kamela Harris that blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so; and

3. the same Kamela Harris that kept people in prison beyond their sentences in order to use them as cheap labour for the state of California...

She was literally one of the least popular candidates in her very own party's primaries and it is likely she is going to take up POTUS role, despite being hilariously unpopular even within her own party. American "democracy" sure works in funny ways, while "checks and balances" take a hike until there is another pesky anti-establishment populist to suppress.

[alhoon]

Is this the same Kamela Harris that (when we look at her record as a prosecutor):

1. put over 1,500 people in prison for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana;

2. the same Kamela Harris that blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so; and

3. the same Kamela Harris that kept people in prison beyond their sentences in order to use them as cheap labour for the state of California...

Yes. That very one.

I would also add:
4. She went after minorities with vengeance (as it was easier to get them convicted) for drug and other offenses and then played the race card in the primaries.

5. She tore a new butthole to Bidet and then became his best buddy.

Kamala Harris' stance on blacks and Hispanics as a prosecutor is solid proof that:
- Systemic racism exists as she went after them for easy convictions.
- Being black / Indian doesn't mean you won't take advantage of systemic racism to step on the dead bodies of people with the same color like you.


That said:
Yes, she's ambitious and ruthless. Yes, I disagree on many of her progressive ideas and I find her too far environmentalist.
BUT... all these qualities don't make her a bad leader. FAR FROM IT.
Putin and Xi are both ruthless and ambitious and have turned on their own when needed to promote their career and agendas.

Kamala Harris is a leader with bigger balls than Bidet's and Trump's combined.
She's a leader. One I disagree with, but a leader.

USA could do MUCH worse than KH as PotUS. Bidet doesn't hold a candle to her.

Kamala / Ivanka 2024!!!!

Why K/I ? Come on... she's closer to Republicans than Democrats. Sure, she plays the LGBT thing but you can tell it doesn't define her. Her politics are strongly rightwing BUT climate.

[Heathen Hammer]

Do people seriously still pretend that politicians have ideas and values? She is a talking head, that represents nothing but interests of corporate elite, everything else such as views and values of politicians can be removed by Occam's razor, and Harris is a perfect example as hers have consistently changed to adapt to current trends, while implementing pro-establishment policies doing nothing above the absolute cosmetic minimum as per the policies promised during the election. Obama did this, Trump did this, Biden is doing it and you can bet Hunter's crack stash that so will Harris.
America is just an oligarchy. A bit more subtle oligarchy then say Russia or China, but an oligarchy nonetheless.

[antaeus]

Do people seriously still pretend that politicians have ideas and values? She is a talking head, that represents nothing but interests of corporate elite, everything else such as views and values of politicians can be removed by Occam's razor, and Harris is a perfect example as hers have consistently changed to adapt to current trends, while implementing pro-establishment policies doing nothing above the absolute cosmetic minimum as per the policies promised during the election. Obama did this, Trump did this, Biden is doing it and you can bet Hunter's crack stash that so will Harris.
America is just an oligarchy. A bit more subtle oligarchy then say Russia or China, but an oligarchy nonetheless.

Of course they have ideas and values. Their values might be "power is an end itself" or might be "I am obliged represent my corporate overlords to the best of my ability"

Be more accurate Heathen.

[Heathen Hammer]

Of course they have ideas and values. Their values might be "power is an end itself" or might be "I am obliged represent my corporate overlords to the best of my ability"

Be more accurate Heathen.

Indeed. I kinda admire the system American oligarchy has got going for itself. People can vote for whoever they want to represent them (which always comes down to whoever each of of the two party picks), that person can promise literally anything, but upon coming into the office can just ignore own promises entirely and focus on working for the interests of the oligarchy, then if/when he loses next election oligarchy can just pick another one from opposing party and then it looks like its people's fault for electing such candidates and not system's fault at all, isn't democracy wonderful?