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    Quote Originally Posted by chilon View Post
    Define what you mean by "globalist"
    "Globalist" is just a right wing buzzword, like "Socialism" or "Open Borders". The Republicans know they can't actually argue for their goals, such as a restricting voting as much as possible and funneling all of the nation's wealth to billionaires, and they can't argue against Democratic goals like expanding access to voting and affordable healthcare. So they just give their voters a list of buzzwords to repeat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...4233cfec7e2827

    The Gist: Biden will send 4B$ more to Central America, as in the continent, not the fly-over states of central USA.

    I... am uneasy about this. The measure is supposed to stop the ROOT of immigration. Instead of Guatemalans risking limb and life to come to USA for a slightly better future, help them make it there in Guatemala and in the process create more consumers for your own products.
    In theory.
    On the other hand, that money may well go to the pockets of crooks that will happily buy Chinese products for their cronies and USA guns for their thugs meaning you still get the immigrants and only a tiny return of the investment in the form of increased gun sales - and more murders in Central America and drugs across the world.

    If it works, it's wonderful and much more effective than building 50B$ worth of walls.
    If it doesn't work, you have made very evil drug dealers more powerful.

    And I am not optimistic Biden will outsmart the drug dealers.
    Not really carring. We spent much of the 20th century screwing up central america. Trying to band aid seems fine. Decriminalizing Pot and cocaine would be helpful. Unless the US ends the war on drugs I can't see any good outcome for the broken weak states of central America. Shutting down gun exports would help even more so. But still seems like chump change no worries the economy and vaccine roll out need to not get distracted. Same reason I'm glad they are slow walking Iran its a policy that while I think a new deal would be good has about zero domestic gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...4233cfec7e2827

    The Gist: Biden will send 4B$ more to Central America, as in the continent, not the fly-over states of central USA.

    I... am uneasy about this. The measure is supposed to stop the ROOT of immigration. Instead of Guatemalans risking limb and life to come to USA for a slightly better future, help them make it there in Guatemala and in the process create more consumers for your own products.
    In theory.
    On the other hand, that money may well go to the pockets of crooks that will happily buy Chinese products for their cronies and USA guns for their thugs meaning you still get the immigrants and only a tiny return of the investment in the form of increased gun sales - and more murders in Central America and drugs across the world.

    If it works, it's wonderful and much more effective than building 50B$ worth of walls.
    If it doesn't work, you have made very evil drug dealers more powerful.

    And I am not optimistic Biden will outsmart the drug dealers.
    Anyone who thinks $4B will do anything economically to help CA economies are consciously deceiving themselves. However, if $4B is used for traveling expenses, paying off CA border guards, and coyote expenses then you can count on millions more heading for the US in many, many caravans.

    Which begs the question: "Have you ever wondered how all those penniless peasants came up with the $4,000 to pay a coyote to guide them across the border?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    "Globalist" is just a right wing buzzword, like "Socialism" or "Open Borders". The Republicans know they can't actually argue for their goals, such as a restricting voting as much as possible and funneling all of the nation's wealth to billionaires, and they can't argue against Democratic goals like expanding access to voting and affordable healthcare. So they just give their voters a list of buzzwords to repeat.
    ^These deep words of wisdom and deliberate thinking are brought to you by the folks who stand at attention and nod their heads in approval when the words "Orange man bad" are spoken or written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    When did I ever specify Jews in particular? And even if I had, are you saying that the example is inappropriate because a Jew cannot possible be a holocaust denier or something similar?
    Well, you said it about me, and I'm a Jew, ergo you've said it about a Jew. It's just a bit of a stretch to expect a Jew to be a holocaust denier, thus the comparison is not the most fitting. You could have gone for something benign, such as a flat earther. But of course you had to take it to the Nazi side of things.

    Nobody stopped Trump from developing relations with Iran with the JCPOA in effect. That wasn't a requirement for dialogue, nor is there a clause in the agreement that stipulated that no further agreements could be made.
    Try reading what I wrote before replying, I've already addressed this in the quote. When recycling talking points try to leave a few posts in between to make it less obvious.
    Furthermore, we would arguably be in a much better negotiating position to both, justify further military action against Iran or to negotiate a deal that would further curtail Iranian weapons programs or proxy activities. As a consequence of United States leaving the JCPOA unilaterally, trust and support will be much harder to build not just with Iran, but with European partners and other important players like China, Russia, and India.
    Iran throughout the period the JCPOA was active continued to violate UN resolutions and test ballistic missiles, and none of the US's partners cared. Heck, when Republicans introduced a resolution to deal with this Blinken wrote an op-ed voicing opposition to it, Wendy Sherman later also voiced opposition. The vote passed the senate 98-2. Iran also violated the treaty by supplying the Houthis with ballistic missiles, as found by the UN. The Europeans did not wish to impose any measures in response to violations. The US tried to change the deal, the Europeans wouldn't have it, and thus it was terminated.

    These rebels?

    "The armed conflict in Yemen has resulted in the largest humanitarian crisis in the world; parties to the conflict have killed and injured thousands of Yemeni civilians. According to the Yemen Data Project, more than 17,500 civilians were killed and injured since 2015, and a quarter of all civilians killed in air raids were women and children. More than 20 million people in Yemen are experiencing food insecurity; 10 million of them are at risk of famine."

    Yes, the Houthis.
    Let's put those numbers into some perspective: As of March 2020 the estimate for the conflict was 233,000 killed, out of them 12,600 civilians, or 5.4%. A quarter of that is 1.35%, or 3150. But I suppose that saying that 1.35% of those killed in Yemen were women and children doesn't sound quite as impressive.
    You still however have not explained why this is reason to cut off arms sales to the Saudis.


    An Iran that's more reliant on foreign trade and access to markets is an Iran that will suffer even more if sanctions are re-imposed.
    That's.. interesting logic, to put it nicely. Should we apply this to North Korea maybe?


    Iran was hard pressed to find opportunities for proxy wars. Iran's expansion of irregular warfare isn't because they lacked money or material. It was because it was surrounded by stable regimes. With both Iraq and Syria in ruins due to the War in Iraq and the Arab Spring, Iran gained the opportunity to spread its influence. This has much less to do with money, and much more to do with United States making its own bed.
    Irans influence has actually been in decline in Syria as their inability to provide sufficient support ended with a Russian intervention that in turn caused a decline of Iran's, meanwhile their Lebanese Henchmen took substantial losses in the process.
    Lack of funding is a factor, you can look at Iran's declining influence in Gaza to see that as they are unable to fund their puppets. Giving Iran pallets of cash and lifting all international pressure gives them much more to work with. Thanks, Obama.


    Iran will find money to fund terrorists and proxies with or without the sanctions, with or without the JCPOA. In fact, had Trump been allowed to stay in office, United States would've further isolated itself and allowed China's influence to grow. There is potential for China to provide an alternative to countries like Iran, North Korea, Russia, and even the European Union. By withdrawing from the JCPOA we did not isolate Iran, we isolated ourselves. Thankfully, the global financial and trade system still heavily relies on United States, hence why the economic sanctions had their effect. But this has given far more reasons for the rest of the world to detach themselves away from United States.
    Iran wasn't isolated due to the weakness of the Europeans and their unwillingness to act, from their perspective there was already a deal that kicked the ball further down the line so why bother. This is why the bad deal was worse than no deal. Thanks, Obama.

    The Shah was deposed by a popular revolution rather than a military coup, so I doubt it.
    Plenty of things that were once popular are no longer so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    "Globalist" is just a right wing buzzword, like "Socialism" or "Open Borders". The Republicans know they can't actually argue for their goals, such as a restricting voting as much as possible and funneling all of the nation's wealth to billionaires, and they can't argue against Democratic goals like expanding access to voting and affordable healthcare. So they just give their voters a list of buzzwords to repeat.
    Like white supremacy, nazi, racist, and antifa is to the left, apparently.

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    Biden has already done more work in his first few days as President than Trump has done in his whole life.

    Two years of unified Republican control of both chambers of Congress and the Presidency and what did Trump do?

    Pass tax cuts for the rich and golf. Never even gave a thought to the infrastructure or healthcare plans he promised the gullible MAGArubes.

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    Pass tax cuts for the rich and golf. Never even gave a thought to the infrastructure or healthcare plans he promised the gullible MAGArubes.
    Well, and helped making the Middle East much more stable, achieved record GDP growths that Obama once said you need a magic wand to achieve, achieved record low unemployment, drastically cut regulations, appointed 3 conservative judges, passed tough immigration reforms, kept mining alive and the most important:

    He pissed off the pink-haired SJWs. And he did that before he even got into office.

    Sure, sure, Biden managed to piss off the hillbillies, flat-earthers, science-deniers, conspiracy freaks, far-righters etc. before he even got into office.
    And that will probably be Biden's most important achievement.

    The rest are cookies that go after the main meal: Pissing off the very very annoying people I disagree with on either side.

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    achieved record GDP growths that Obama once said you need a magic wand to achieve
    Still have to disagree. Trend is the same as the Obama years. U-4-6 still look . Wages were stagnate as always. Wealth continued to aggregate to to the top 1-5%. Trumps success in the economy is mostly a mirage outside of the market made a lot of money for people who already had a lot of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    He pissed off the pink-haired SJWs. And he did that before he even got into office.
    And that is by far the most important thing in the world to Trump's base. I've heard someone say that Trump supporters aren't actually conservatives at all, he calls them "anti-liberals." They don't believe in anything except opposing liberals and worshiping Trump.

    They didn't even have a platform this year beyond "We hate liberals and Trump is our Lord and Master." Who even knows what else they stand for, if anything? Fiscal responsibility? No. Free trade? No. Family values? No. Patriotism? No. Law and Order? Definitely no.

    And that is why Biden is kidding himself if he thinks any kind of reconciliation with these people is possible. They will oppose everything he does, even if they would in any other circumstance be for it. Just like they did with Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Still have to disagree. Trend is the same as the Obama years. U-4-6 still look . Wages were stagnate as always. Wealth continued to aggregate to to the top 1-5%. Trumps success in the economy is mostly a mirage outside of the market made a lot of money for people who already had a lot of money.
    Continuing the upwards trend is not bad practice. And Trump managed a 4.1% growth of GDP. Income inequality increased but so did Median (not average) household income before the pandemic. It was not a mirage, it was a miracle. Something Obama considered impossible. And even through the Pandemic, the median household income in USA grew by 4% in 2020.

    (and then the completely farcical handling of the Pandemic killed a bunch of americans and wiped out much of the Trump gains but income is still high.)


    Median income in the beginning of 2017 (Trump takes office): 63800$. Median income in the end of 2020: Estimated at 78500$.
    Median income in the beginning of 2009 (Obama takes office): 59500$.

    In 4 years and a Pandemic, the median income of USA household increased over thrice as much as in the 8 years of Obama. There are reasons for this, but it is undeniable that it is not a mirage.

    Poverty has also been drastically decreased under Trump:
    https://www.census.gov/content/dam/C...70/Figure7.pdf



    https://www.census.gov/library/publi...o/p60-270.html
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...te-since-1990/
    (It is expected to lower to 10.2% in 2020, even with the Pandemic. That's how good Trump's deregulations were)


    You may begrudge Trump for much, but he was good for the economy pre-Pandemic and even WITH the pandemic, he's still good enough.
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    Australia was against leaving the Iran deal. We're a reasonably close ally.

    For us Bidens team look more predictable (which is good and bad). Trumps chaotic approach has yielded one sweet fruit with some sworn enemies of Israel now normalising relations. We almost had a Saudi invasion of Qatar though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    "Globalist" is just a right wing buzzword, like "Socialism" or "Open Borders". The Republicans know they can't actually argue for their goals, such as a restricting voting as much as possible and funneling all of the nation's wealth to billionaires, and they can't argue against Democratic goals like expanding access to voting and affordable healthcare. So they just give their voters a list of buzzwords to repeat.
    Open Society, Open Borders aren't "right wing buzzwords", they're literally borrowed to peoples advocating it.

    What expression should we use in order not to sound right-wingers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VINC.XXIII View Post
    ... Open Borders aren't "right wing buzzwords", they're literally borrowed to peoples advocating it.
    And subsequently ascribed to people who do not.
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    From the Penn Biden Center, which is presumably a fair reflection of the President’s worldview:

    https://global.upenn.edu/penn-biden-...ogue-globalism
    U.S. leadership has sustained an open world for more than 70 years, enabling virtually every advantage we enjoy as Americans and helping to ensure our safety, our prosperity, and our way of life. Comprised of common norms, rules, and institutions, the American-led liberal international order has facilitated the free movement of people, goods, ideas, and capital; protected the sovereignty and self-determination of nations; and promoted basic human rights and fundamental freedoms for all peoples.
    But the pace and scope of change also exposed new vulnerabilities, as the speed of technological progress, the advance of automation, the unbridled flow of information, the erosion of borders, the scale of global connectivity fed a growing sense of chaos, confusion, and doubt. Rising income inequality deferred the dreams of many and dimmed hopes for future generations. Too many of our fellow citizens got left behind or felt left out of the benefits that flow from global engagement. The resulting crisis of legitimacy is eroding support for American internationalism.
    Populism and nationalism may slow the tide of globalism, but they cannot stop it. As new disruptive forces loom, we have to get ahead of the curve – lessening the burdens and seizing the opportunities of a changing world. As Vice President Biden has said, “In a globalized world, there is no bright line between foreign and domestic policy. What happens at home impacts on our capacity to have the support of the population to remain engaged in the world.”
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    Australia was against leaving the Iran deal. We're a reasonably close ally.
    Hardly impacted by it though. The countries most impacted are very much concerned by Bidens approach, so much so that today Israeli media reports that the IDF is asking for its budget to be increased to prepare for a strike on Iran.
    We almost had a Saudi invasion of Qatar though.
    The Trump admin negotiated a solution to that crisis in his last few days in office

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    Hardly impacted by it though. The countries most impacted are very much concerned by Bidens approach, so much so that today Israeli media reports that the IDF is asking for its budget to be increased to prepare for a strike on Iran.

    The Trump admin negotiated a solution to that crisis in his last few days in office
    In my view, Israel is uniquely positioned to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities and other military targets without risking a world war since Tehran is already openly committed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and the US is committed to preventing that. Maximum pressure from the US + targeted strikes by Israel would keep Iran on the back foot and ensure the regime never develops nuclear capabilities, without western powers having to concede to nuclear blackmail by removing sanctions. The Europeans don’t want this of course, because they have business interests there (hence why they watered down the nuclear deal for fear Tehran would reject it), but the reality is that business interests will never be viable under the current regime anyway. If Israel has the opportunity to act, the Biden Admin would only be able to whine about it to save face while remaining bound by security agreements to defend Israel from escalation.
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    From the Penn Biden Center, which is presumably a fair reflection of the President’s worldview:

    https://global.upenn.edu/penn-biden-...ogue-globalism
    The false claims of inevitability are a predictable mask for globalist interests. Major eastern societies (e.g. Japan, South Korea, China, Russia and India) have avoided the allegedly inescapable transformation into mass-migrant economies experienced by many Western states.

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    In reality, Russia has one of the greatest number of immigrants (12 millions), second only to the United States. The government is aiming to further increase that number, in order to avert the ongoing demographic crisis. South Korea still has relatively few immigrants, but their percentages have been growing rapidly since the early '90s and the government, similarly to Kremlin, is also intending to encourage immigration. Japan still resists the trend, despite being in their third decade of deflation, while India, doesn't need immigrants (yet), since she enjoys a favourable birth/death ratio, although a couple million immigrants already live and work there. By the way, in relative terms, the first places are dominated by quite a few ''Easter'' societies, like the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and etc.. In some of them, immigrants are a majority and enjoy special privileges, thus confirming that the prospect of Eurabia was not a baseless conspiracy-theory. I wonder whether the locals there also complain about the Jewish globalist plot to alter their national demographics or whether they are more thick-skinned than Europe's far-right parties.

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    Biden 2020: Trump has no plan for the pandemic, elect me I have a plan

    Biden 2021: There's nothing we can do to stop the trajectory of the virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdülmecid I View Post
    In reality, Russia has one of the greatest number of immigrants (12 millions), second only to the United States. The government is aiming to further increase that number, in order to avert the ongoing demographic crisis.
    In reality, the proportion of the foreign born population in Russia is ~8.0% (most coming from former Soviet republics). The foreign born populations of the US, Germany and the UK are almost twice as much at ~15%. The foreign born population of Canada is ~19%, and that of Australia is ~30%.

    South Korea still has relatively few immigrants, but their percentages have been growing rapidly since the early '90s and the government, similarly to Kremlin, is also intending to encourage immigration. Japan still resists the trend, despite being in their third decade of deflation, while India, doesn't need immigrants (yet), since she enjoys a favourable birth/death ratio, although a couple million immigrants already live and work there.
    Pointing out that India's fertility rate eliminates the need for mass migration there entirely proves my point for me. Globalist solutions are not inevitable at all, despite the persistent, typically cynical, claims made by archliberals and international leftists to the contrary.

    By the way, in relative terms, the first places are dominated by quite a few ''Easter'' societies, like the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and etc.. In some of them, immigrants are a majority and enjoy special privileges, thus confirming that the prospect of Eurabia was not a baseless conspiracy-theory. I wonder whether the locals there also complain about the Jewish globalist plot to alter their national demographics or whether they are more thick-skinned than Europe's far-right parties.
    The attempt to associate any opposition to mass migration with anti-Semitism is a thinly veiled, albeit entirely predictable, ad hominem. Curiously, extensive migration is the one aspect of neoliberal economics which is enthusiastically supported by the radical left. No rewards for guessing why.
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