Which determines if settlement gets -13 or -30 resistance?

[taw]

Did we ever figure out this logic?

Capitals of majors get -30, most other settlements get -13, that's the usual pattern.

But sometimes capitals or former of minors get -30. Like I just had Cherokee Territory (taken from Cherokee) and Lower Louisiana (taken from France, which integrated its protectorate) have -30. It's annoying as these are trash provinces with no slots for happiness buildings, so I need army to babysit them even longer than like in France (which has so many +repression and +happiness buildings).

What's the rule here, anyone ever figured it out?

[Hassassin]

I think devastation of the capital city and minor towns(buildings) around the province as a result of raids/previous battles and siege and maybe also how much the faction that used to own the territory hated you.

[Hassassin]

and also taxlevels, forcing a newly conquered province to pay up taxes right off the bat (and increasing it) will surely piss off the population (especially the lower classes) and guarentee riots and subsequent rebellion if nothing is done to reduce the unhappiness in terms of the tax-level and repression which is increased by government-type, townwatch and stationed troops which increases repression even more by the way some units like dragoons and maybe militia too have a policing bonus.

[William of Orange]

What mods are you playing?

I've got over 4,000 hours playing Empire (vanilla only, campaign difficulty = Very Hard), and have never seen either Cherokee Territory or Lower Louisiana have a resistance of -30.

I have no recollection of ever seeing a -30 resistance except in the Capitol Region of a Major Faction; and that's not something easily forgotten or missed if it came up.

[taw]

OK, so I did some testing and I finally found the answer.

You get -30 resistance in capital of any PLAYABLE faction. You get -13 everywhere else.

Contrary to a common belief, it has nothing whatsoever to do with major vs minor, it's only about playable flag.

So mods that make every faction playable (which seem totally harmless, like they were in Rome 1 and Medieval 2) will also completely change the game by making tons of settlements have -30 unrest, and make conquering Germany or Italy really annoying.

(even in unmodded game, there's one non-playable major Mughals; I didn't check them specifically, but I believe they'll get just -13 unrest)

[Alwyn]

Thanks, that's useful to know.

[coolgit]

I tried to modify the resistance to foreign occupations months ago but i couldn't find where the data is. Is it hard coded or does anyone know?

-13 a weird number to pick.

[taw]

I think -13 and -30 numbers are hardcoded. At least I couldn't find them anywhere when I tried to mod them.

[coolgit]

patch.pack file. Look into Campaign_variables tables.

some examples :

happiness_revolution_culture -1
happiness_revolution_neighbour -2
happiness_war_drift 1
happiness_war_lower_cap -15
happiness_war_major_defeat -1
happiness_war_major_victory 1
happiness_war_region_conquered 4
happiness_war_region_lost -4
happiness_war_upper_cap 6

Darthmod

happiness_revolution_culture -1
happiness_revolution_neighbour -3
happiness_war_drift 2
happiness_war_lower_cap -10
happiness_war_major_defeat -2
happiness_war_major_victory 1
happiness_war_region_conquered 4
happiness_war_region_lost -5
happiness_war_upper_cap 6

Perhaps the answers are in there. Will do some experiments to see what transpires.

[taw]

happiness_war_* applies to your capital based on how well war is going.
When negative it's called "war weariness", and when positive it's called "patriotic fervor".

Either way, these are not what you're looking for.

patch.pack file. Look into Campaign_variables tables.

some examples :

happiness_revolution_culture -1
happiness_revolution_neighbour -2
happiness_war_drift 1
happiness_war_lower_cap -15
happiness_war_major_defeat -1
happiness_war_major_victory 1
happiness_war_region_conquered 4
happiness_war_region_lost -4
happiness_war_upper_cap 6

Darthmod

happiness_revolution_culture -1
happiness_revolution_neighbour -3
happiness_war_drift 2
happiness_war_lower_cap -10
happiness_war_major_defeat -2
happiness_war_major_victory 1
happiness_war_region_conquered 4
happiness_war_region_lost -5
happiness_war_upper_cap 6

Perhaps the answers are in there. Will do some experiments to see what transpires.

[coolgit]

You're right Taw.