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    Default Re: Banning books is the dumb way to go

    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    Exactly, what building blocks are chosen is pretty much part of the woke movement. So many of the blocks currently force feed to kids are fibs, idealisation or omitted, that the claim the true is out there somewhere available to anyone willing to search for it later in life doesn't make up for the years of propaganda passed as education.
    If your education system is managed by politicians, then 'woke' is a stupid thing to invoke. There is simply just different political perspectives on what is necessary. You referencing 'woke' in a negative light simply betrays that you are in a different political camp to those you disagree with and are unable or unwilling to strike out for a middle ground of acceptable materials.

    When I'm referencing 'building blocks' I'm not referencing Odysseus, I'm referencing basic grammar, reading, writing, math etc... And realistically, that can be adequately taught with the most 'woke' curriculum you could think of - or the opposite libertarian equivalent. In fact, I think you're arguing something that isn't really important until high school when students should be taught about different types of source material and are increasingly specialising their fields of interest (at which point your 'woke' comment becomes irrelevant) or university when students are developing their own theses based on their own research. If students are actively prevented from finding their own source material they need at this point, you've got a problem, otherwise I think you're describing a storm in a tea cup.
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    Default Re: Banning books is the dumb way to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Marx's writings isn't exactly something that is the feel or field of high school literary classes. Which this thread seems to have the complaints and rants of regarding teachers. At least at its highest levels.

    I'm not sure you have anything to worry about yet.
    I’m not seeing Doe’s point either. Actually, in my school we read a fair few books by left wing authors, such as Priestley’s Inspector Calls and Orwell’s Animal Farm (and they’re great books). So the angle he’s worried about isn’t a big problem, at least in Britain.
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    Default Re: Banning books is the dumb way to go

    Animal Farm was on the list of books for english class here, so I read it when I was (iirc) 14. Great book, with excellent ending paragraph.
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