Trump's Pardons

[PointOfViewGun]

Through out his presidency Trump pardoned over 30 people. A comprehensive list can be found on the Justice Department's website. You all remember the pardon of the Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio. Some of his latest pardons (not all listed yet) seems to be much more important than what we've seen so far.

Factbox: List of 15 people pardoned by Trump

Duncan Hunter, a former Republican congressman from California who pleaded guilty last year to misusing campaign funds. He was sentenced to 11 months’ imprisonment set to begin in January 2021. - Chris Collins, a former Republican representative from New York who pleaded guilty last year to conspiring to commit securities fraud and making false statements to the FBI. Collins, who had been the first sitting member of Congress to endorse Trump’s candidacy in 2016, is serving his 26-month sentence.

Nicholas Slatten, Paul Slough, Evan Liberty, and Dustin Heard, security contractors for the former security firm Blackwater who were convicted for their roles in the 2007 massacre of 14 unarmed Iraqi civilians at a Baghdad traffic stop.

George Papadopoulos, 33, a former Trump campaign aide who pleaded guilty as part of the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. He pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to FBI agents about the timing and significance of his contacts with people who claimed to have ties to top Russian officials.

Alex van der Zwaan, the Dutch son-in-law of Russian billionaire German Khan. Van der Zwaan was sentenced to 30 days in prison and fined $20,000 for lying to U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigators about contacts with an official in Trump’s 2016 campaign.

Alfonso Costa, a dentist from Pittsburgh who had pleaded guilty to healthcare fraud related to false billing.

Alfred Lee Crum, 89, who had pleaded guilty in 1952 to helping a relative illegally distill moonshine in Oklahoma.

Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former Border Patrol agents who were convicted of assault after Ramos in 2005 shot a suspect trafficking marijuana who subsequently fled across the border. Their prison sentences were commuted by former President George W. Bush.

- Weldon Angelos, who had been sentenced in 2002 to 55 years’ imprisonment for selling marijuana and carrying a handgun in the course of dealing and was released by judicial order after serving 13 years in prison.

Philip Lyman, who was a county commissioner in Utah when he was prosecuted for protesting the Bureau of Land Management’s closure of the Recapture Canyon to ATV riders.

Otis Gordon, who had been convicted of possession with intent to distribute.

Some are obviously trivial or outdated but others are quite controversial, such as the 4 individuals involved with the massacre of 14 civilians in Iraq. More pardons are likely to follow before he leaves office. Use this thread to discuss his pardons whether they're deplorable or justified actions.

[sumskilz]

Seems fair for him to have pardoned Susan B. Anthony. After all, she did play a pivotal role in the women's suffrage movement, and the inability of Seattle Metro to accept her coins has saved me countless dollars over the years.

[Donny Crane]

How Snowden did not get a pardon is beyond me.

[Gaidin]

Seems fair for him to have pardoned Susan B. Anthony. After all, she did play a pivotal role in the women's suffrage movement, and the inability of Seattle Metro to accept her coins has saved me countless dollars over the years.

That's a strange cultural misstep. Nobody's pardoned her because everybody's respected the fact that she believed she did nothing wrong and wouldn't accept a pardon.

[Love Mountain]

Paul Manafort, Charles Stone, and Roger Stone.

At last, justice and freedom for innocent men unfairly targeted by the State.

[Exarch]

The Blackwater pardons were absolutely unacceptable and indicative of Trump's predilection towards white supremacists;


Shooting innocent iraqis after the US army just invaded the country helps explain the rapid rise of ISIS in the decade that came.

Pardoning Flynn was also a massive show of favouritism towards pro russian americans.

Trump may even pardon his own family and pompeo for their own sins.

[athanaric]

How Snowden did not get a pardon is beyond me.

To receive a presidential end-of-term pardon, you have to be either a corrupt associate of said president, or a common criminal (or a terrorist, depending on the administration in question). People exposing the wrongdoings of state institutions need not apply. Pretty sure this holds true for every other country, too.

[Cope]

Manning had her thirty-five year sentence commuted by President Obama.

[Exarch]

Trump pardoned the walking penis, jared kushner.

Unbelievable.

That little turd should be rotting in a cell somewhere, for the he has done to the world.

[Papay]

Charles Kushner, the father of Jared who heired a prostitute to blackmail a relative of him was also pardoned

[Gaidin]

Manning had her thirty-five year sentence commuted by President Obama.

To avoid the back and forth about Manning and Snowden, we can at least understand the difference between a commutation and a pardon before getting in the weeds about the two of them.

We know that Trump understands them. Because he commuted Roger Stone's sentence in July, but granted him a full pardon yesterday.

[Cyclops]

...We know that Trump understands ...

covfefe, bigly.

I'm not persuaded these pardons are systematic. Trump is capable of repeating annoying behaviour more persistently than 6 year old Cyclops jnr on too much chocolate, with no apparent motive beyond generating more noise. The moment his enemies say anything about pardons his signing finger must start itching again.

[Infidel144]

Trump pardoned the walking penis, jared kushner.

I know them jews all look alike, but, uh, no.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Trump pardoned the walking penis, jared kushner.

Unbelievable.

That little turd should be rotting in a cell somewhere, for the he has done to the world.

Wrong Kushner, Exarch.

[Exarch]

Wrong Kushner, Exarch.

He's not just a chip off the whole turd, but the whole turd itself.

Jared Kushner will need a pre-emptive pardoning, as will his wife ivanka. Biden and the Democrats are going in hammer and tongs to excise the trump cancer.

[PointOfViewGun]

Justice Department website finally listed 23rd December pardons. Some highlights:

Roger Joseph Stone Jr. - Obstruction of proceeding; false statements (five counts); witness tampering

Paul J. Manafort - Subscribing to false United States individual income tax returns for 2010-2014 tax years (five counts); failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for calendar years 2011-2014; bank fraud/Lender B/$3.4 million loan; bank fraud/Lender C/$1 million loan, and Conspiracy against the United States; conspiracy to obstruct justice (witness tampering)

Charles Kushner - Fraud and false statements (16 counts); retaliating against witness, victim; statements or entries generally

John Frederick Tate - Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; causing false records; causing false campaign contribution reports; false statements scheme

Jesse R. Benton - Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; causing false records; causing false campaign contribution reports; false statements scheme

Mark Siljander - Obstruction of justice; violation of Foreign Agents Registration Act

Russell Paul Plaisance - Conspiracy to unlawfully import cocaine into the U.S.

[pacifism]

One unique thing about President Trump's pardons is that he hasn't pardoned very many people. Right now, it's less than fifty. Trump and Papa Bush are the only presidents after Ford who didn't pardon a triple-digit number of people. President Obama famously commuted the sentences of almost two thousand people.

The other unique thing about President Trump's pardons is that they are almost all personal. Self-serving pardons are not unheard of: President Clinton pardoned his own brother Roger. Ford pardoned Nixon of everything, and Bush pardoned quite a few of the Iran-Contra guys too. But the average pardon or commutation was given to a stranger and could in no way be seen as a potential cover-up.

So on one hand: President Trump rarely pardons people. But when he does, it's almost always more ethically questionable. It kind of looks Trump is going to be himself - unprecedented and more cronyism than average - to the very end.

Sources:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ning-his-kids/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...odern-history/
https://www.lawfareblog.com/trumps-a...d-commutations

[Sir Adrian]

Not pardoning Snowden is just crimminal imho. The man is a hero and he's just had a baby.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

Not pardoning Snowden is just crimminal imho. The man is a hero and he's just had a baby become father.

I corrected it for you. If 'I got a flu, and i die' men would get babies, mankind would be doomed.

But you are right, Snowden should be pardoned for leaking how a threat for liberty the anti terror laws have become.

Trump is obviously pardoning people, who could become dangerous for him, if they talk.

[conon394]

Not pardoning Snowden is just crimminal imho. The man is a hero and he's just had a baby.

Really perhaps a missed the part where is moved off the traitor and tool of of the Czar part.