CTD with Dwarves Axethrowers

**Rómendacil I** · December 06, 2020, 09:19 AM

Hi, I always get a CTD when Dwarves Axethrowers are about to throw their axes. This CTD occurs not only during battles in map campaign, but also in custom and historical battles. When I installed TATW 3.2 for the first time few days ago, I also installed Essential Bugfixes and Creature Crash Fix for TATW 3.2, no submods. Any help to fix this CTD is appreciated.

**k/t** · December 06, 2020, 01:05 PM

Log?

**Rómendacil I** · December 06, 2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

Log?

Here part of the log file of a custom battle with the Dwarves Axethrowers

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Rómendacil I** · December 14, 2020, 07:50 AM

Fixed.

**noobd** · April 20, 2021, 06:38 AM

How was this fixed? I think I am having same issue.

For some reason, my ...\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\logs folder is always empty; where else can I check?

I have to launch the Kingdoms mod (Teutonic) through Steam to launch TATW because the medieval2.exe and tatw start.bat files in ...\mods\teutonic don't work for me.

Thanks.

**noobd** · April 20, 2021, 07:33 AM

Fixed my problem this way: descr_projectile.txt file in my ...\mods\teutonic\data folder was pointing to the wrong folder (Third_age) instead of teutonic

Search for projectile quality_thrown_axe in that file and edit to something like below.

;model mods/teutonic/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model mods/teutonic/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model mods/teutonic/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, max

Was so sweet to see my axethrowers release their axes and not CTD! Lol.

**alex86** · October 15, 2021, 04:08 PM

Noting the same problem in Vanilla TATW 3.2 just recently installed (Win10 + Steam) and patched with the essential and creature bugfixes, and launched the instructed way with the batch script. The way above seems to be for an outdated install method (overwriting the Teutonic mod) that is highly unrecommended because of its interference with various scripts.

However, even in vanilla the descr_projectile.txt looked like this:

Code:

projectile quality_thrown_axe

damage        0
radius        0.05
mass        0.15
accuracy_vs_units        0.06
min_angle    -75
max_angle    60
velocity    30
display        aimed spin 4
;model        mods/Third_Age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, max

the last lines of which I modified to this:

Code:

;model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, max

(The first of these lines is commented out so should not matter, and I'm not sure if the paths are case sensitive or not. On Windows they shouldn't be. If on Mac perhaps make sure the case matches)

I am puzzled by this being an error that persists through the essential bugfix patch. Perhaps something to do with how I launch it, and it expects a working directory where data/... is sufficient but actually mods/third_age_3/data/ is required? However I'm also confused by the section for javelins in the same file:

Code:

projectile javelin

damage        0
radius        0            ;0
mass        0.05            ;0.05
accuracy_vs_units        0.055    ;0.03
min_angle    -60
max_angle    70
velocity    30
display        aimed invert_model_z 
model        data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_high.cas, 40
model        data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_low.cas,  max

I can't locate these *.cas files at all, in any folder within or outside the mod. Yet javelins...work? My guess is that these are located in one of the M2TW vanilla data packs somehow which are extracted within the game when it runs, but the axes are a custom mod resource that requires the special file. No throwing axemen in vanilla M2TW, right?

In any case, can anyone confirm if this is supposed to be in the essential bugfix or not, or if I have made a mistake somewhere that resulted in this?

I came across the issue playing as Silvan Elves during a battle with some reinforcing dwarven allies, and initially thought it was because of the reinforcing army. If it is for any dwarven throwing axemen I would think there would be a lot more of these reports.

**Araval** · October 20, 2021, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by alex86

the last lines of which I modified to this:

Code:

;model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, 40
model        mods/third_age_3/data/models_missile/francisca_high.cas, max

So did this work for you? It might not seem an essential fix for people that can use axethrowers fine as they are...