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    Default Religion of Peace Strikes Again: Teacher beheaded in France after showing Mohammed cartoons

    The identity of the suspect has not been released, but so far its pretty obvious that this is another case of Islamic terrorism:
    French teacher who had recently shown students cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed was beheaded outside his school on Friday, in what President Emmanuel Macron called an “Islamist terrorist attack”.
    The assailant, whose identity has not been established, was shot by police as they tried to arrest him and later died of his injuries, police said.
    France has seen a wave of Islamist violence since the 2015 terror attacks on the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and a Jewish supermarket in the capital.
    With Chinese virus and other calamities in the Western world, it seemed that Islamic terrorism was no longer in the front of the news-lines, but sadly it continues to be an ongoing threat:
    The killing comes as security forces have been on high alert during the ongoing trial of suspected accomplices of the attackers in the January 2015 terror attacks in Paris, which also saw a policeperson gunned down in the street.
    It also comes just days after a follower of the Islamic State militant group who attacked a police officer with a hammer outside the Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris was sentenced to 28 years in jail.
    And last month, charges were brought against a 25-year old Pakistani man after he wounded two people with a meat cleaver to avenge the publication of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed by Charlie Hebdo, which purportedly prompted the 2015 killings.
    Seventeen people were killed in the three-day spree that heralded a wave of Islamist violence in France that has so far claimed more than 250 lives.
    https://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...le32878581.ece
    The perpetrator was born in Moscow, indicating he was likely ethnic Chechen (or another Muslim ethnicity from former USSR). Could also be one of the "refugees" who came from Syria, as many Chechens went to join ISIS there, while many ISIS militants used "refugee" status to safely escape Syria once Russia and Syrian government finally destroyed the organization.
    So it seems that despite all the privileges for Muslim immigrants as well as suppression of criticism of Islam have done very little to curb the enthusiasm of terrorists that are motivated by Islam to commit violence.
    The "experiment" of pluralism and multiculturalism clearly isn't working out - at the very least it certainly creates a violent threat against citizens of Western European countries, whose tax money are used to create such a threat to begin with.
    So what should be done? Should France double-down on pandering to radical Islam in hope that at some point attacks will stop? Or is it time to reconsider mass-immigration from Islamic societies due to obvious security risks?
    Discuss.

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    Default Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again: Teacher beheaded in France after showing Mohammed cartoons

    Usual far right propaganda pattern:

    One random muslim kills a person in a western country. Must be fault of Islam!

    One random far right kills a dozen people like in Hanau. Not the fault from an american far right propaganda site in WWW, just a lone wolf.

    So boring predictable.

    For all those, who don't want to use this for ranting against Islam - here a more serious news source:

    He named the suspect as Abdoulakh A. - an 18-year-old man, born in Moscow of Chechen origin. He came to France with refugee status as a boy and was unknown to anti-terrorism police.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia Iunia Bruti View Post
    Usual far right propaganda pattern:

    One random muslim kills a person in a western country. Must be fault of Islam!

    One random far right kills a dozen people like in Hanau. Not the fault from far right propaganda site in WWW, just a lone wolf.

    So boring predictable.
    Whataboutsim isn't an argument. Plus I wouldn't bring political ideologies into this, given how in the last few decades globalist liberalism caused more people to die via "exportations of democracy" in Middle East and globalism-caused Chinese virus pandemic then all other political ideologies (including mythical "far-right") put together.

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    From what I understand that guy was teaching freedom of expression and in that context he showed those cartoons. I suppose France should simply make those cartoons part of the obligatory school curriculum, in the context of that freedom. That is the way to defeat those islamoterrorists. As things stand, with every such horrible attack even if the politicians keep talking about not allowing them to win, the people get more and more scared. That is the point of terrorism. Soon, it won't matter if it is legal to show Muhammad cartoons, because nobody will dare to anyway.

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    Default Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again: Teacher beheaded in France after showing Mohammed cartoons

    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia Iunia Bruti View Post
    Usual far right propaganda pattern:

    One random muslim kills a person in a western country. Must be fault of Islam!

    One random far right kills a dozen people like in Hanau. Not the fault from an american far right propaganda site in WWW, just a lone wolf.

    So boring predictable.

    For all those, who don't want to use this for ranting against Islam - here a more serious news source:

    He named the suspect as Abdoulakh A. - an 18-year-old man, born in Moscow of Chechen origin. He came to France with refugee status as a boy and was unknown to anti-terrorism police.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827

    How many other religions out there mandate that anybody who draws something should be executed asap?


    Chechen are extremely zealous muslims btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia Iunia Bruti View Post
    He named the suspect as Abdoulakh A. - an 18-year-old man, born in Moscow of Chechen origin. He came to France with refugee status as a boy and was unknown to anti-terrorism police.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827
    French nation takes in Chechen guy as a refugee, he proceeds to murder a Frenchman. Yeah, figures.

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    The victim was teaching a class of 13-14 year olds using what can be best described as lewd imagery. The attacker is reported to be 18 and have no connection to the teacher. The use of the cartoons was one of millions of cases. So, we have some random guy who is not a student in that school, not a parent or relative to any of the kids in the class committing a hate crime randomly in that school. Did someone set him up to do this?


    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    How many other religions out there mandate that anybody who draws something should be executed asap?
    Well, certainly not Islam. Islam doesn't mandate that anybody who draws something should be executed.
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    Bloody zealots. Allowing themselves to believe there's a greater goal to be served, one that legitimizes the repression of those who think differently and one they believe it is worth dying for. Such attitudes are not just dangerous for whoever happens to be the target. They're an embarrassment to humanity regardless of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    The victim was teaching a class of 13-14 year olds using what can be best described as lewd imagery. The attacker is reported to be 18 and have no connection to the teacher. The use of the cartoons was one of millions of cases. So, we have some random guy who is not a student in that school, not a parent or relative to any of the kids in the class committing a hate crime randomly in that school. Did someone set him up to do this?




    Well, certainly not Islam. Islam doesn't mandate that anybody who draws something should be executed.
    An extremist Muslim or jihadist is the guy beheading the teacher.

    Moderate Muslims are the students denouncing their teacher and giving information to extremists.

    74% of French Muslims under 25 say they put Islam before the Republic: https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-fr...aines-20200908
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    An extremist Muslim or jihadist is the guy beheading the teacher.

    Moderate Muslims are the students denouncing their teacher and giving information to extremists.

    74% of French Muslims under 25 say they put Islam before the Republic: https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-fr...aines-20200908
    Do you know for a fact how the guy that killed the teacher attained information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    The victim was teaching a class of 13-14 year olds using what can be best described as lewd imagery.
    Have you seen the cartoons the teacher was using?

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    France is a country that promotes secularism; Islam is a religion that appears to be incapable of assimilating into western cultures. It's like the proverbial immoveable object and an irresistible force.

    There is a solution but i don't think any of you guys are going to like it: just ban islam as a hate ideology the same way the germans banned nazism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    France is a country that promotes secularism; Islam is a religion that appears to be incapable of assimilating into western cultures. It's like the proverbial immoveable object and an irresistible force.

    There is a solution but i don't think any of you guys are going to like it: just ban islam as a hate ideology the same way the germans banned nazism.
    One of the designers in my team at work is Muslim. They haven't tried to blow up my office yet. And they wear the same brands of clothing as me.

    Should I be worried?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    Have you seen the cartoons the teacher was using?
    Yeah. It's been reported that he was showing the Charlie Hebdo cartoons of Muhammad. Not all of them are exactly PG-13 regardless of the subject matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Do you know for a fact how the guy that killed the teacher attained information?
    ~10 persons are under investigation, we know that one of them is Brahim Chnina, father of a student. He made a video denouncing publicly the teacher in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    One of the designers in my team at work is Muslim. They haven't tried to blow up my office yet. And they wear the same brands of clothing as me.

    Should I be worried?
    Who is "they"? Seems unrelated to the first sentence.


    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    ~10 persons are under investigation, we know that one of them is Brahim Chnina, father of a student. He made a video denouncing publicly the teacher in the past.
    Well, I hope that he gets rewarded with a lengthy tour of the local penitentiary facilities. A couple decades should do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    ~10 persons are under investigation, we know that one of them is Brahim Chnina, father of a student. He made a video denouncing publicly the teacher in the past.
    Yeah, they automatically detained anyone who voiced any negative opinion about use of the cartoons in the class. Do the parents have no right to object use of such material in class for 13-14 year olds?
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    What happened during this free speech class? RTL was able to meet one of the murdered professor's students.

    “And the more the days went on, the more he was harassed by students and outside of college. He had a lot of death threats. A lot of people said they were going to kill him etc. But we didn't want to believe it. We told ourselves that it was not possible that this could happen, ”explains the student of the murdered professor.

    In French here : https://www.rtl.fr/actu/justice-fait...ves-7800905871
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Yeah.
    Link to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    One of the designers in my team at work is Muslim. They haven't tried to blow up my office yet. And they wear the same brands of clothing as me.

    Should I be worried?
    Yes.

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