Want to rant about rightwings and conservatives? This is your thread.

[conon394]

1. I don't care about your global studies, because the US is medically distinct from Ghana.

And humans are very much the same anywhere. Unless you mean distinct to mask something uglier.

2. You have not given me a single fact indicating that this girl is at risk from a medical standpoint.

Birth is extremely dangerous and birth this young more so but you just basically data why post more

3. You have not inquired as to this girl's desires for her own pregnancy.

Well considering she was raped one assumes she was not asking for it. But she a child she not allowed to buy cigarettes, wed, alcohol, go to a PG 13 movie, even go on a school field trip or get pain killer at school without parental consent or her picture taken.


You post is rather loathsome.

[Prodromos]

These are the feet of a 10-week-old unborn baby. We're talking about an actual human being with an inviolable right to life, no different than you or me.

According to the Guttmacher Institute, abortion is already legal in Ohio in cases of "life endangerment or severely compromised physical health." If that's the case in this pregnancy then abortion is already permitted. But if it hasn't been found to be the case then why should the child be killed?

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

At this age and with that weight the fetus wouldn't survive outside the uterus.

Sorry Prodomos cheap appeal to emotions.

I could do the same by posting pictures of the 3,1 million children died by undernutrition every year and asking if we should not save the born first.

[alhoon]

1. I don't care about your global studies, because the US is medically distinct from Ghana.

2. You have not given me a single fact indicating that this girl is at risk from a medical standpoint.

3. You have not inquired as to this girl's desires for her own pregnancy.

Your insistence that her baby must be killed on her behalf lacks any evidence. You're just glad happy to kill babies just because, I suppose. It's pretty gross that you insist on making an awful situation a murder scene.

1+2: I did, you just didn't accept it because it is a risk
3. She is a victim of sexual abuse that had to be taken to Indiana

I am not supporting abortion for fun, but in this case, when a miscarriage is practically guaranteed with a lot of evidence (that you don't accept) as for the dangers to the mother, is clearly presenting how there should be exceptions to the blanket rule.

[PointOfViewGun]

These are the feet of a 10-week-old unborn baby. We're talking about an actual human being with an inviolable right to life, no different than you or me.

Are you obligated to feed me as part of my inviolable right to life?

[Cope]

Let's avoid conflating positive and negative rights. The former obliges action, the latter inaction. The right to life is usually only a negative right, meaning that actions which would deprive another of their life are prohibited. The right to life is positive (in part) if a person is a custodian of another (e.g. parent, guardian, prisoner officer, teacher e.t.c.). In this case the custodian is obliged to attend to the basic health needs of the dependent.

In short: Prodromos would not be obliged to provide Setekh with food unless he was Setekh's custodian.

[alhoon]

Both sides forget the elephant in the room here: A sexually abused 10-years old was put to further stress and strain.
The discussions on inviolable right to live are talking around that issue.

Also, I am moderately pro-life. And as a reasonable pro-life person, I am saying that claiming pregnancy and giving birth to your sexual abuser's child at the age of 10 years old is not dangerous despite the WHO pointing out the dangers, is abominable.

[Cyclops]

Once again, not my country, but if states in the US are forcing 10 year olds to carry rape babys to term they have fallen to barbarism.

[Heathen Hammer]

Lobotomies were a peer-review approved thing in Americas until only a few decades ago, while commonwealth governments continued sterilizing "subhumans" way into 1970s. Its funny, but infamous German Reich racial/eugenics laws were only catching up to such laws in anglosphere's "liberal democracies", and such practices remained in such "democracies" for decades after WW2. So travelling a few hours out of state to commit an abortion isn't such a big deal when you put it into perspective.

[Cope]

Both sides forget the elephant in the room here: A sexually abused 10-years old was put to further stress and strain.
The discussions on inviolable right to live are talking around that issue.

Also, I am moderately pro-life. And as a reasonable pro-life person, I am saying that claiming pregnancy and giving birth to your sexual abuser's child at the age of 10 years old is not dangerous despite the WHO pointing out the dangers, is abominable.

It turns out that the story is unverified (and therefore might be a hoax).

[alhoon]

It turns out that the story is unverified (and therefore might be a hoax).

Interesting... I honestly hope it is a hoax.

[Coughdrop addict]

I was recently in a rural area and it was covered in Trump flags and signs that said things like "Trump 2024. Your Feelings" and " Biden". Just incredible amounts of coping and seething and vulgarity and hatred for everyone who isn't them.

Trump is a symptom of a disease in America. Once he’s gone, the millions of cultists who followed him will still be out there. They are not tethered to reality. They can be easily manipulated and controlled by disinformation. There will be more “Donald Trumps” for them to follow. The next one will probably be a lot smarter, more eloquent, etc.

This is an ongoing problem. One that can’t be fixed by elections.

[alhoon]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/15-old-bo...143606899.html

The gist: Police went after a suspect for armed carjacking that has fled to a house. They threw tear-gas and flash-bang grenades. The grenades started a fire. A teenager died from smoke inhalation.

Now, I am not a SJW and I actually strongly dislike them.
But it is evident that such accidents are far more likely to kill black teenagers than white teenagers. Simply put, the police seems much more prone to escalate when black people are involved and woe to those that are nearby.

[Cope]

Interesting... I honestly hope it is a hoax.

The Ohio AG claims that he has seen no evidence that the crime occurred, and claims that were the case real, state law would allow for an abortion out of medical necessity.

[irontaino]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/15-old-bo...143606899.html

The gist: Police went after a suspect for armed carjacking that has fled to a house. They threw tear-gas and flash-bang grenades. The grenades started a fire. A teenager died from smoke inhalation.

Now, I am not a SJW and I actually strongly dislike them.
But it is evident that such accidents are far more likely to kill black teenagers than white teenagers. Simply put, the police seems much more prone to escalate when black people are involved and woe to those that are nearby.

It doesn't seem, it is. It's a well known systemic issue.

[Prodromos]

"When you call your Fire Department or the Police Department, what do you think you're calling? These are socialist institutions." - Bernie Sanders

Man makes a good point. Maybe we should move this discussion to the anti-Left rant thread?

[Sir Adrian]

They're really not and he doesn't though. Police and firefighters exist since the Ancient Egypt and the Roman republic respectively

[Cyclops]

Bernie seems unaware of the various Athenian regimes, varying from maybe Drakonian (I guess oligarchic/aristocratic) through isonomy to radical democracy and some juntas thrown in all of whom maintained a force of Skythian "archers" as a police force, more or less. Other protopoljce were established by Roman Emperors and Sir William Peel. Theres a similar non communist origin story for firies too.

I like Bernie but this is tripe.

[Coughdrop addict]

The Ohio AG claims that he has seen no evidence that the crime occurred, and claims that were the case real, state law would allow for an abortion out of medical necessity.

Of course it's generally considered bad forum (and very illegal) to give out raped children's information to the press. In this case we'd also have to worry about some anti-choicer harming her.

[Cope]

Of course it's generally considered bad forum (and very illegal) to give out raped children's information to the press. In this case we'd also have to worry about some anti-choicer harming her.

There would be no need to divulge any personal information.